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US intelligence now recruiting dis info specialists

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posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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Now recruiting dis-info specialists....Officially that is,


In this regard, information strategists can consider clandestinely recruiting or hiring prominent bloggers or other persons of prominence already within the target nation, group, or community to pass the U.S. message. In this way, the U.S. can overleap the entrenched inequalities and make use of preexisting intellectual and social capital. Sometimes numbers can be effective; hiring a block of bloggers to verbally attack a specific person or promote a specific message may be worth considering. On the other hand, such operations can have a blowback effect, as witnessed by the public reaction following revelations that the U.S. military had paid journalists to publish stories in the Iraqi press under their own names. People do not like to be deceived, and the price of being exposed is lost credibility and trust.


Wonder how many are on ATS doing their misinformed deeds for the PTB?


Also, taking down a site that is known to pass enemy EEIs (essential elements of information) and that gives us their key messages denies us a valuable information source.


Source & article

I really do not think that commenting on this is really necessary at all as it speaks volumes by itself. It will affect many blogs and extend into websites as well that contain content that they deem for whatever reason, harmful to the national security of the United States. Or somewhere therein that is. Its a sketchy move and well have "wikileaks" to thank for this new venture of privacy invasion.


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posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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I always find these threads to be intellectually amusing.


While I would buy, easily, that ATS is watched proportionately more than other sites. The idea of having to throw disinfo specialists into our sandbox doesn't seem rational to me. What we have here is a very diverse group of people with an exceptionally diverse field of beliefs and viewpoints. In fact there is such a plethora of diversity here that we, in effect, muddy our own waters. There is no need for anyone to be paid to do so.

Now, if you want to discuss whether or not any number of special interest groups, specific political parties, religious organizations, hate groups, or some specific business entities might be of a mind to clog our pipes with their agendas and refuse... Well that's another can of worms that I have a totally different opinion about.


~Heff



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 05:56 AM
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Hey Hefficide!

I know for a fact that many websites that contain "alternative content" are monitored by the fedgov for a variety of reasons that include but not limited to, locating and identifying users thought to be fugitives, investigation of threats made by electronic media and just plain 'ol intelligence use. The boom of the internet in the beginning was great, now it has and will, become another tool of technology used against citizens in direct contrast of it's original intention.(after DARPA that is)



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 05:57 AM
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No doubt paid deceivers have spent plenty of time on ATS, but who cares. In the long run, it is their own souls and futures which they damage. Satan is the deceiver according to religious texts, so I doubt God will be too enamored with them when they reach the "pearly gates".



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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I agree with your opinion. But on the other end of the spectrum if there was no truth or fact in the content that the disinfo types work against, then why even imply any attempts of disinformation in the first place? I prefer truth & fact over politically and socially motivated lies of others. Although many people have come to have the attitude of "nothing I can do so why care?" which is the goal of those disinfo types.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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There is a similar think thank in the UK called DAVOS. Their aims are almost exactly the same to the ones outlined in the op. To me, it doesn't really matter, if governments want to employ people to come on sites like this to give the governments view, what difference is it going to make. In some ways a responsible government should put its position across, especially when there is so much dis information flying around from all sides.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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In some ways a responsible government should put its position across, especially when there is so much dis information flying around from all sides.


Excellent point indeed



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 06:59 AM
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Well officials do come on sites like this one, given that its audience is one that is duly noted so to assume that this site is not visited either by foreign and domestic alpha's and not only is very wrong.

In fact a personal friend who is in the entertainment business with a position very high up in the clouds has actually registered on this site with a pseudo name for obvious reasons. What i am able to say is that his interests are the alien area, conspiracy area, grey area, skunk area, cryptozoology and several similar areas of the site. Oh before i forget, he has a fascination with scifi movies so i guess that accounts for his interests in these areas of the site. After all, scifi movies when produced with the right amount of dosage do return multi ten figure digits in profits to say least.

peace.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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For disinfo agents to be on such sites as ATS is rather ridiculous. We have intelligent members with eyes that are open and know better than to listen to such people. They would get put in their place quickly enough.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by Night Star
For disinfo agents to be on such sites as ATS is rather ridiculous. We have intelligent members with eyes that are open and know better than to listen to such people. They would get put in their place quickly enough.


You would be surprised at how much information can be collected from the internet / social forums.




posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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Based upon my experience here, most of the disinfo people populate the 911 and Israel/Zion threads. I would guess that at a minimum there are a half dozen that are clearly here for that purpose, and another half dozen or so that are likely.
My opinion only, of course.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:14 AM
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Social networks, blogs, and discussion forums as well as alternative news sites all offer the ability to communicate to large "target" audiences, it would be foolish on the part of the federal government to not be involved with their own agents posting material designed to control content and public opinion when and where required, and also to interact with suspicious posters in order to target them for investigations and/or surveillance.

You've already interacted with many of them if you participate in any of the above, including ATS.

They have the abilities and linguistic skills as well as tools needed to get the job done.

Don't underestimate their ability to mislead you or anyone or in fact lead you to a conclusion in any case where they feel it is necessary to do so.



Yes, they are here!



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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I really question some members on here. The so called purists who won't budge at giving them facts. They want to convert you before you convert them. Those could be possible disinfo people.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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In my post I listed several sources, other than governmental, which could, would, and do have motive to pollute boards, such as this, with rhetoric and biased information.

Wander into any thread that has anything to do with Islam and you'll see examples on both sides of the fence. In fact I watched one specific thread degrade into an apparent and nearly endless example of two such people doing nothing more than restating their respective opinions over and over again at one another.

It was actually quite entertaining and funny.

My point was that the government doesn't need to pay people to misdirect us. We do a wonderful job of keeping each other confused and mired in incorrect information on our own.

We might all agree that the Warren Commission, for example, did not come to the correct conclusion. But once we begin to talk about specifics, we begin to fragment into camps, behind divergent ideas. Eventually all we end up doing is bickering about minutia and specificity.

Groups are a wonderful method of discerning truths, but only if looked at as a whole. Our individual knowledge is far less accurate in most cases.

If you want to worry about the CIA knowing things, fear Google spiders. That's where the real intel is gathered.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
Groups are a wonderful method of discerning truths,


Until they get too close to the actual truth, when that happens they go to work!



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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Not really. ATS does have intelligent members...No doubt there however, to assume that because ATS members are smart that dis info agents do not stand a chance is not an intelligent assumption.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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Nice thread/OP. It is just a confirmation of the fact that not only are they into the info/disinfo game, they are expanding it. As for TPTBs presence here on ATS, there are definatley people from the intelligence comunity etc here for multiple reasons. They have admitted to being here to gather any information they can that they deem useful, We also know that it is part of their game to disrupt groups of all types in real life and on the net. I think there is 0 doubt that they are here and they are trashing threads and people that get too close to the truth or are spreading negative information about the man, whether true or not. You would be a fool to think any differently.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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My own conviction is that there are disinfo specialists on this site.

Of course a lot of "disinfo" is posted by people who simply don't know what they are talking about, but some persistent posters who steadfastly maintain rediculous positions and constantly resort to ad hominem attacks in their posts and constantly insert themselves into discussions where they have nothing to contribute except complaints about the premise of the forum itself, lead me to wonder if they are here on a mission that has more to do with denying intelligence than denying ignorance.



posted on Oct, 4 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Sweet, I would get paid money to do what I am often accused of doing. Where do I sign up? I want free money.




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