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the fate of a planet whose resources have, in the last 200 years, been carelessly, even ruthlessly exploited for the benefit of the minority. Now that the majority is beginning to demand - or at least crave - the same kind of existence...
And this is precisely the reason that genetically modified foods look like an increasingly attractive option. The way things are trending—both with food markets and global diets—the demand for food is quickly outpacing what agriculture and husbandry can supply.
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
I drive on the interstate and see millions of acres of open lush land all the time. Only liars claim there ain't enough space or enough potential for real food.
Originally posted by 547000
If we want to feed all the world we need to all live on farms instead of cities or there will probably be hungry people left over. This problem could be reduced if only more people adopt instead of create their own child.
Originally posted by justadood
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
I drive on the interstate and see millions of acres of open lush land all the time. Only liars claim there ain't enough space or enough potential for real food.
you see millions of acres? You might see a lot, but you'd have to drive A LOT of the states to see millions of acres of open lush farmable land. Are you a trucker?
In addition, merely converting open land to farm land is not an easy process, nor is the environmental implications of the transition.
THAT SAID- there is no real food shortage. It's a myth.
BUT, i agree that the era of cheap food should end. Cheap food (or cheap goods of any kind) contributes to over-consumption, over-population, and forces small farmers to sell out to major corporations who are the only ones able to make a profit with such low returns (and even then often only with the help of government subsidies.
Food is kept articifically cheap by government subsidies of food products, as well as major pieces of the production and transportation like fuel. If the 'market' where to price food, it would be MUCH higher than it is today.
And i argue this would be better for people's health, better for the planet, and better for our society as a whole.
Originally posted by Ashyr
yes.
went to the supermarket here in NZ.
the other day.
brought usual 80$ worth of groceries for the week.
2 portions of meat cost me 28$
prices have gone up. and wages and handouts stay the same
gst rise here 2 weeks away.
my mate brought 100$ woth of groceries. it all fit in 1 bag.
LOL
Originally posted by AlreadyGone
Farming is not hard to understand. It is hard physically, and if you don't have some of the resources needed...money or land when you begin, it is challenging. Most farmers I know took over their parent's operation.
The average age of a farmer is about 59. That doesn't bode well for future crop production in the US. Further, there is always a rising tide of laws and regulations which drive people out of the business before they even enter it. The EPA is even considering legislation to punsih farmers for stirring up too much dust....really.
These things plus rising costrs are killing off the American Farmer. How can you be an independent producer of pork when it costs you more to raise the hogs than what you can seel them for... beef too.?... You have to keep your costs below those of food importers...aka Mexico, China, EU.
By becoming a small farmer.... that's how.Grow your own food... sell any excess at the flea mkt, local farmer's mkt, Craigslist.
It is hard work to grow food on that scale...takes commitment everyday...that is why so many don't do it. It is not convenient nor easy. But the rewards are great...nutritious... and cheap.
Although we have 50 acres, we actively work only about 5 acres... we raise meat goats, chickens, have a few hogs, and a monster garden...which is the sorriest garden i have ever had due to dry weather...it happens on occassion...LOL... getting ready to fix me some raised beds with a little homegrown irrigation using buckets and lake water.
Speaking of farming and commitment and food...time to feed the animals...daylights a wastin'.
Me too, I live in the country and moved from the city 3 years ago we are growing our own food too... its better than store bought... I will put my jams and fruits up against anything at the store... mmmmm tasty
.... I noticed at a "box large product store" that there are lots of "click and pull carts" ready to be picked up from purchases on line... lots of beans, rice and basic supplies.My point is...people are stocking up on supplies... please do this too for your family fast before stores are wiped out again... remember a hurricane (if you have them in your town) our city shelves are completly empty for hundreds of miles at only the threat of bad weather... and its getting worse...
if people in the city just change what they eat. We have purchased and grown basic foods.. vegetables/fruits/ rice beans cornmeal flour grow our own chickens and beef too....
if city folks wanted, they can start a small garden and exchange food with neighbors... (for example, I trade eggs for vegetables and fruits and honey from local farmers) here are some ideas that might work for some city folks.....
1) trade your skills with local farmers/co-ops for food- many small time ranchers may need your skills. Put an ad in craigs list or the local paper and see what happens!
2) grow a garden in your back yard and trade with neighbors
3) change your eating habits from microwave meals to real food! it will cut your food costs by 50% or more
4) cook ahead...I'll say it again COOK AHEAD! You can get a "food saver" shrink wrap machine and cook large meals in advance then freeze small portions... believe it or not.... its almost as fast to make 2 gallons of spaghetti sauce as it is 1 liter/quart... if you do cook ahead for every meal in no time, your freezer is FULL of great foods for your family is whatever size portions you need. By the way... We have meals for up to a year in our freezer...( Yes we are getting a generator solar powered if possible ASAP)
5) share the cost of beef with friends and neighbors. Go to a beef processing facility or an auction and BUY A WHOLE COW.. you can get about 500 to 1000 lbs on average and share the cost with friends and neighbors... there you go! meat for the whole year. (you pay for processing and pick up the meat about 1 week later)
6) buy "loss leaders" spend your day shopping for specials that get you in the door.. then leave and go to the next store. Look for coupons.
7) Look for "cost per ounce" or serving... it will surprise you. its NOT the largest box on the shelf.
8) Make recipes from low cost products.... get creative) they are real tasty and filling... (beans rices vegetables fruits and salads)