Originally posted by mpeake
Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every
stratagem of war.”
Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you
prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your
Qur’an 48:16 “Say (Muhammad) to the wandering desert Arabs who lagged behind: ‘You shall be invited to fight against a people given to war with
mighty prowess. You shall fight them until they surrender and submit. If you obey, Allah will grant you a reward, but if you turn back, as you did
before, He will punish you with a grievous torture.”
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit
their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”
Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set
you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found,
they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.”
The Qur'an does not preach non-violence. Being non-violent is infact encouraging violence by those who can take advantage of your passive attiitude,
even if you don't agree I'm sure the country you live in would retaliate if under attack. The Qur'an is peace-wanting and there are verses that
give strict rules on conduct during war and peace. If you look at the Qur'an properly the policy with respect to war is far more humane and
peace-striving than many governments of today, including the West.
However the verses you picked are all relating to times of war in the days of newly formed Islam. Your translations don't seem very agreeable with
the popular ones I know of. I'll try to explain them as I know them but it's best to find out from a proper Islamic website.
9:5 better translated to: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege
them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is
Forgiving, Merciful. "
This is quite a bit different sounding to what you gave. It was an order to Muhammad (from God) to remain purely defensive for four months before
attacking the Pagans that were attacking them for their new religion in the first place (having broke a treaty). After that fight them hard and with
every strategy possible (ambush suggesting it is a defensive war). Additionally, allow them to make amends if they want, rather than being
Your next verse (9:38) relates to the same historic war.
Verse 48:16 relates to another period in history. Again the "call to war" is so that the religion can survive much like countries today call on
their people to fight. The "wandering desert Arabs" were Muslims making excuses to get out of fighting and Muhammad is told to remind them of
Allah's reward or punishment.
8:12 again relates to historical events and with a proper translation doesn't look like an order to Muhammad or Muslims but Allah inspiring His
angels with a message.
Your badly translated 33:26 describes the Jews who were living as citizens in the then Islamic city of Medina and had pledged that they would help
defend against a certain tribe. Yet they aided the enemy during a time of great crisis for the city. They had to be punished or imprisoned as traitors
just as any country nowadays would do.
I believe verse 33:60 relates to the same City and period but different trouble-makers within. The Hypocrites being those who claimed to be Muslim but
led their lives quite immorally.
you can basically only fight when your beleifs are encroached upon. What in the Islamic faith describes someones faith or beliefs as being
It's not a question about the faith being threatened (whatever that means), but another group attacking. The Islamic state can only fight if it is
being physically attacked and after negotiation has failed, you'll note very few countries West or East are this peaceful. Also it can fight if a
group of people cry out from within another state that oppresses them and there is no other alternative. Other faiths are accepted within the Islamic
state so long as the Laws are not broken due to those practicing their faith.
[edit on 23-6-2004 by mithras]