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Originally posted by bogomil
Re: IAM
For Dog's sake, haven't you still noticed, that I'm talking about those types, who would rather end with some kind of kaboom, if their own sickly obsession with a world-dominating monopoly doesn't come off?
Originally posted by bogomilThe nice greengrocers of the world can mumble prayers or whatever ....all they like. I too have my own weird sides.
Originally posted by bogomilAnd the prophets who come here to save souls, for 'your own good' must simply accept heckling correponding to their own degree of invasive rhetorics. I do not suggest physical retribution to people who ONLY oppose me verbally.
Originally posted by Kailassareply to post by bogomil
Doctrines are a way to divide people.
Originally posted by bogomil
Hi again Kailassa,
absolutely no offense, but my completely untrustworthy intuition says, that you're a dudette. Apologies if I as usual am wrong.
The reason I mention this is, that wiccan/Gaian worship is the only (very, very slight) religionist indulgence I have. Not that I pray, worship or such, but one of the most pleasant higher energies I've encountered, was feminine.
So even if the controverse between the jews, the gnostics and the paulines in the Jesus crowd was much more open and pronounced, I've always had a weak spot for the women around him, and I secretly hope, that some women have some esoteric tradion surviving, being the true heirs of Jesus (if he existed, and knew anything)
Paulus' attitude to women could indicate, that he considered them as much competitors as the gnostics, so better get them chained to the kitchen-stove, where they could have babies.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
For as the woman [is] of the man, even so [is] the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for [her] hair is given her for a covering.
Actually I'm not using bad spelling as an argument in a religious discussion (I have personal limits of appearing idiotic in public). But it has been used against me as a religious argument to demonstrate my general incompetence and low intelligence.
Because a man can be 'raised from the dead' as a woman in a subsequent life, and vice versa.
Because a Jew, or a Christian or a Hindu or a Muslim can be 'raised from the dead' in any religion in a subsequent life.
Because a person can be 'raised from the dead' as a member of any race, any social class, any economic class or a citizen of any nation.
Originally posted by bogomil
The 'beloved brother' thing is by some biblescholars considered a hoax.
Not so surprising. There's a lot of hoax'ing in the pauline bible.
Of course they (Jesus Seminar) consider it a hoax.
Originally posted by bogomil
The 'beloved brother' thing is by some biblescholars considered a hoax.
Originally posted by bogomil
Re: NOTyourTypical
From my perspective, you demonstrate the unsavoury tactics of declaring opposition as 'heretic' in advance.
A debate is expected to be completely on your terms, and by your special kind of twisted logic, you already have all the right answers. 'Authorities' have to be approved by you.
Ofcourse I completely deny you this right; maybe this even surprises you.
I can use whatever sources I choose, outside your bubble of circle-argumentation. I can even ignore the, by fanatics, beloved methods of diversionary maneuvers and least-point-of-resistance, where opponents are send on wild chases on punctuation or 'proved' wrong, because a specific point taken out of context 'decides' the whole issue.
From the perspective of jewish-'christians' and gnostic-'christians' YOU are the heretic, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change that. Except denying, that these groups existed.
And by the way, what do you expect to 'gain' from this. Some saved souls? A feeling of being in the right? Or?
Originally posted by nlouise
Synagogue of Satan: Who owns Wall Street? Who controls Israel? Who owns all of our media? Who owns Hollywood? Who owns the globe? Who owns the oil? Who controls all the religious organizations on the planet? Who creates all the wars? Who controls economics? Who controls all the bankers? Who really controls the USA?
If you know the answer to these questions, then you know who the scriptures are referring to. Don't TPTB (the global elite) claim to be 'men of faith'?
Revelation 2:9 (King James Version)
9I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 (King James Version)
9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.