Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Chevalerous
It's for an example only imaginations & lies that the Media mogul Silvio Berlusconi and other elite Corporations & the corporatocracy are now
actually lobbying to censor forums, Blogs and digital news-papers to control what should/could be written on the net in Italy and in several other
countries around the EU. 
Yeah, like they're actually succeeding
Look at Wikileaks.
I love it how people keep complaining of having "no freedom of speech" while writing about EXACTLY the things they supposedly have no freedom of
speech about.
This is exactly what the Supporters of Net Neutrality are trying to prevent!
No.
And No.
They are:
1. Creating an Artifical Problem ("The Corporate Fascistoids have taken over the Internet!!!!!")
2. Offering the Solution ("More Regulations! More control!")
You have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about! - you have almost everything backwards!
How do I know that you got this backwards?
Because some of the good points you have made ARE ACTUALLY FROM THE PROPONENTS OF NET NEUTRALITY INITIALLY but has then been stolen, twisted around a
little and is used now by the Corporate OPPONENTS to the NET NEUTRALITY.
This is very clever propaganda and modus operandi from the Corporate lobby groups, the Corporatocracy and their Corporate lackies - indeed.
You take some good points from your opponents, twist the meaning around of the message a little to fit your aganda - and then deliver its content as
your own political message - and delusionally and falsely say: look this is what the proponents want with Net Neutrality!
When the truth actually is the totally opposite.
And by the way! Wikileaks are not an Internet Service Provider!
And furthermore, they work through one of the few totally independent ISP's that is not owned or controlled by these fascistoid interest groups -
YET!
And you have apparently ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what is happening here with the Media/Internet services in Europe with ISP's who are closely connected to
people who are openly Fascist as well - in France, Italy, Spain and many other European countries where the Fascist Corporatocracy (A.K.A the
business people who are influencing the EU politicians regarding new laws with the Internet surveillance & Internet control aganda to work in their
favor) are very close to the elite Politicians, figure heads and some Ministers who are running the countries.
As I said in another thread:
Due to crazy circumstances, destiny and an old good friend of mine I came across several of these influential "Internet/Media" business/investor
people at a very posh private party/informal business event in Southern Europe some years ago.
There I met and small talked with some of the business friends who for an example works around Berlusconi and other important media people & some
politicians in Europe, while all were mingling around the huge Villa, sipping Champagne.
I and one lady friend ended up talking with one group of Spanish businessmen when some older Italian guys joined the group out on the terrace and
started talking.
To my surprise one of the Italian guys takes up his cell-phone and suddenly I hear this old Nazi anthem: The Horst-Wessel-Lied playing out loudly -
and then everything very quickly became just surreal.
Some of the Spanish guys turns out to belong to the Spanish Fascist "Falange" and they in turn take up their own wallets and phones with pictures of
Franco, Hitler and Mussolini and start showing them around while all of them had a bright smile on their faces.
I just nodded my head and smiled like some damn Idiot myself because I was totally perplexed by what was happening in front of my eyes - I didn't
know what to do or how to react - it was seriously an awkward & bizarre moment.
There you had some important European Media/Internet/ISP business people and deciders from the media and Internet related Investors showing
"Fascist" pictures and playing different 'Fascist anthems' on their phones, comparing stuff to eachother like children do on the schoolyard.
During the few hours I was there I heard how they talked eachother about the best way of lobbying certain things of their agenda in Media and for the
internet - about advancing control while making money at the same time.
It was a totally surreal situation and I immediately felt quite uneasy with the whole bizarre event - so I talked with my old friend who had invited
me and excused myself for us leaving the party early.
Let me present to you a business "friend" to the Media mogul Berlusconi - Lele Mora
This guy
was not present at the same party event I was, but this is what some of these guys and friends of them have in their wallets and
phones - they are the same kind of people I once had the opportunity to meet at this one event - they are the deciders, some of the influencial
investors & owners of New Media & the Internet Service Providers - a few were also people representing business interest groups from the old Media and
some of the private TV industry in Europe.
They probably go to Bilderberg meetings as well!
And many of them were apparently openly Fascists! - how crazy isn't that?
So many people here are telling you the truth about Net Neutrality and is trying to pass on some education about certain things to you guys on how
cheated you are from your Corporatocracy's propaganda and from your corrupt politician's Corporate agenda - but all you do is being childish and
wrongly accuse them of being Commies!
But it's actually you guys who are being taken for a ride by these people! - big time!
Unfortunately and sadly, you don't have a clue of what you're talking about!
They are:
1. Creating an Artifical Problem ("The Corporate Fascistoids have taken over the Internet!!!!!")
2. Offering the Solution ("More Regulations! More control!")
1. The Corporate Fascists
ARE actually trying their best to take control over the Internet! in every way they can!
And
it's they who want to create an
artificial scarcity model to control access of information - not the people, not the other way
around
2. Wrong! It's just so damn sad to see all these incorrect statements from you!
The solution is for the people to to say to these fascistoid Corporations -
you can't just have this sort of Fascism implemented! - our
societies don't accept that you turn the free Internet into your twisted vision and model of Net Fascism 2.0 at the expense of the people, the
freedom of the Internet and the free word! - keep your hands off the Internet, or work with your Corporations inside those frames & rules which are
already existing for the Internet and the current market economy.
I find it very amusing that you're are trying to tell me about what Net Neutrality is all about and what it is standing for! - when you got
everythings backwards.
I have actually met some of these people - and I know what some of them have in their minds - I know what they wish for - things which they're
secretly working with behind our backs, trying to implement together with certain politicians!
And I know that some of their agenda for control is not only related to just business - heck, they are making most of their money on other better
things than the Internet.
I seriously feel so sorry for the naive ones
You can believe whatever you want if that is making you happy -
I'm out of this ignorant delusional discussion.
Corporatocracy, in social theories that focus on conflicts and opposing interests within society, denotes a system of government that serves the
interest of, and may de facto be run by, corporations and involves ties between government and business. where corporations, conglomerates, and/or
government entities with private components, control the direction and governance of a country, including carrying out economic planning
notwithstanding the 'free market' label.
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[edit on 8-9-2010 by Chevalerous]
