posted on Oct, 2 2010 @ 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Neo_Serf
Since you dont know why hitting people is bad, i suggest you go back to kindergarten and relearn basic morality.
You suggest re-education because I don't subscribe to your own personal morality? How very...totalitarian.
Aggression violates personal ownership. I own my body and i also own the consequences of body ownership. If I dont own my body or the effects
I will it to have on my enviroment, than I am nothing and can be acted upon by anyone else for whatever reason as I have no claim to myself and also
cannot be held responsible for my actions, as none of my effects are mine at all. Without personal ownership there can be no rules besides the rule
of force which always degrades and collapses.
Using force against those who violate those which cannot defend themselves is not a bad thing in my book.
If I do own my body than no one else has a right to infringe on my personal ownership.
Ideally, yes. Sadly, our world is far from ideal and it's a choice between an accountable and democratic government infringing on your 'ownership' or
anybody stronger or better armed than yourself doing the same and even worse.
Since body ownership must be applied universally if it is to be a rule
no person can willingly initiate force against anyone or their property if they wish to be an ethical person
Not everyone does
wish to be your version of an 'ethical person'. It amazes me that the entire individualist-anarchist utopia you envisage
relies on a set of morals, ethics and principles which are almost exactly the same across every member of the Human race.
Since this cannot be justified logically or ethically you rely on propaganda and force.
It can be justified logically when you realise that Humanity is not a large group of friendly pacifists and a large number of people actively seek to
do harm to others for their own personal gain. A group of people are thus elected (and anybody can be elected - even yourself) to focus on keeping
people from exploiting each other as much as possible. Sometimes they will screw up (after all, people make mistakes) and you have the opportunity to
speak against them, run against them, vote against them, etc.
edit on 2-10-2010 by LeftWingLarry because: (no reason given)