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Could an experiment on US citizens be on the horizon?

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posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 12:28 AM
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The CIA (Common Inbred Aliens) to most and Central Intelligence Agency to a few obviously takes the starring role in totally pissing off the entire world.

BUT are they really pissing off the world that much or are they used to undermine the USA's own citizens? Throughout the last 50 - 70 years the CIA and other Departments of Government have done so many things to its own people that some would say more are on there way.

Some of highlighted things have been:

1947: The US uses '___' as a potential weapon and begins experiments on US citizens and Military personnel without their knowledge.
1953: Joint CIA-Army-Navy experiments on tens of thousand of New York and San Fransisco citizens using airbourne germs
1953: CIA implements project MKULTRA and to test drugs for mind control use and six subproject tested subjects were unwitting human beings
1955: the CIA tests a biological agent on residents of Tampa Bay Florida without their knowledge
1968: the CIA tests the effects of poisoning the drinking water and injects chemicals into the water in Washington DC

the list goes on

Experiments

US Experiments at home and abroad


So after reading some of these things I am wondering why the Citizens of the US are not more concerned about some of the events that happen regularly in the US.

I am now starting to think that a big experiment to wipe out most of the American population is under way. The building of DUMBS to me is a clear sign that these underground bases are to protect from Biological and Chemical Testing rather than Nuclear testing.

The History of the US testing on its own citizens is their for the world to see and Building these DUMBS for Nuclear or End of World disaster is not as feasible because the effects of Multiple Nuclear Devises would be around for decades and there has been no real evidence of testing for a End of World scenario except for a few Tsunamis and a few earthquakes (earthquakes though start underground so DUMBS would be affected).

Biological weapons can be designed to die out after say 1 or 3 months or what ever they choose. So to me a Biological Grand Scale event is what must be on the cards. Biological can be set to target just humans leaving Trees intact and buildings intact and the rest of Nature fairly well off. The US debt would more than likely vanish and the reset button in the US would of been in essence pressed. A great time to start over.

This is just a thought. What do some of you think? Are you thinking the same thing? If not are you thinking it NOW!




[edit on 13-8-2010 by sassyncute]




posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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Good late night snack of information and some things to sleep on. Star for you sir. These are the types of things that make me pull my hair out every time someone says that I am full of crap for saying the government is a terrible organization.

But really I want to know how I could sneak into one of the DUMB$

[edit on 13-8-2010 by Pigeon Religion]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 01:48 AM
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no disrespect intended here but

when did the experiments ever stop ????



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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do you people really believe this stuff?



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 01:53 AM
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Its all smoke and mirrors,the wizard of oz mass manipulation and one big experiment has been since corporations and the military technical complex took control in the Civil war...its all an illusion all a lie all an experiment.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
do you people really believe this stuff?


I don't have a choice but to believe in this stuff...

If you don't recognize the Senate Hearings on MK-Ultra...then...



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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Mass experimentation is highly unlikely if for no other reason than it skews the quality of the data - the larger the test group the more variables have to be factored in.

But the odds that there is now, and has probably for a long time been, various sorts of testing going on in a variety of localized areas is, IMO highly probable.

Unfortunately the way it seems to work is that we won't find out about them until it's no longer a liability or a whistle blower exposes it.

*edited to fix what appears to have been utter grammatical brain failure*

[edit on 8/13/10 by Hefficide]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 02:07 AM
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Sweet avatar! It's fairly horrifying what some people are prepared to do to others. When it's sanctioned by the State it somehow becomes acceptable? Imagine any of your examples being done to other people by one civilian person. Kind of changes the game. Systematic law breaking for starters. Add excessive cruelty, endangering lives, murder, psychological torture and the list goes on and on. There'd be books about anyone committing atrocities.

Individually CIA agents will be moral people with families and all the average things in life. Collectively, as an organisation with group think and socialisation, there have been so many times they've wandered over the horizon and well past 'acceptable.' If a foreign intelligence agency did this stuff, we'd see it as symptomatic of a corrupt government.

When I first read about MK-Ultra, I assumed that it was conspiracy BS made up by a whacko David Icke fan. It's still hard to believe it was sanctioned and really happened. With the 90s drug-running adventures again showing a moral compass pointing south and the bad past, it has to make people wonder what is 'acceptable' to certain elements of the CIA today?



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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Thanx OP...I agree!
I am up in Canada at the moment and on a recent trip to BC was shown two 'secret' underground base entrances by an engineer who claims he was contracted to build both of them. One (he claims) can house 50,000 and the other 22,000.
Said engineer claimed the bases have a storage of food enough for one year. Both bases have steel doors at their entrances with some kind of digital lock system. It would take alot of dynamite to get thru the doors if you dont have the passcode.
These bases are NOT for the publics' benefit, thats for sure. Nothing the PTB do is ever for the publics benefit.
There is now SO MUCH happening in north America both in Canada and in the US...it is my opinion that the PTB do indeed intend to wipe out the populations of both countries...lets face it, the public are sufficiently educated that they are a danger to the PTB and as more and more of the public awaken to what the rot is and from whence it eminates, they pose a greater and greater risk.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 02:22 AM
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Yes some of us do. Here's just a small example from san fransisco.

When the u.s. attacked itself.


That being said, the theory isn't as ridiculous as it sounds when there's precedence.

edit to add this; us code have a fun read.

[edit on 13-8-2010 by Seiko]



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 02:29 AM
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MK ULTRA was the micro level there have also been macro level mind control experiments you might look up MK DELTA 1960 CIA,PHEONIX 2 NSA 1983,TRIDENT ONR NSA 1989,RF MEDIA 1990,TOWER 1990 CIA NSA,PROJECT CLEAN SWEEP 1997 CIA NSA.



posted on Aug, 13 2010 @ 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
do you people really believe this stuff?


What an insightfull post.

Are you saying these experiments didn't happen?



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 01:14 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

reply to post by sassyncute
 


I firmly believe we are currently entrenched in the largest PsyOp this country has ever known.

Pick up a paper, watch the news, listen to the discussions of current events.

It's everywhere.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 01:38 AM
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I fully believe what you said to be true. We are in some serious trouble if we fail to act soon!!



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

reply to post by sassyncute
 


Therein lies the rub.

To act upon which has been presented is the purpose of the agenda.

To focus on anything the media is feeding us at this point is to play right into the game.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




(*edit - Big Brother demands spellcheck.)



[edit on 8/14/10 by GENERAL EYES]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by sassyncute
 
Sweet avatar! It's fairly horrifying what some people are prepared to do to others. When it's sanctioned by the State it somehow becomes acceptable? Imagine any of your examples being done to other people by one civilian person. Kind of changes the game. Systematic law breaking for starters. Add excessive cruelty, endangering lives, murder, psychological torture and the list goes on and on. There'd be books about anyone committing atrocities.

Individually CIA agents will be moral people with families and all the average things in life. Collectively, as an organisation with group think and socialisation, there have been so many times they've wandered over the horizon and well past 'acceptable.' If a foreign intelligence agency did this stuff, we'd see it as symptomatic of a corrupt government.

When I first read about MK-Ultra, I assumed that it was conspiracy BS made up by a whacko David Icke fan. It's still hard to believe it was sanctioned and really happened. With the 90s drug-running adventures again showing a moral compass pointing south and the bad past, it has to make people wonder what is 'acceptable' to certain elements of the CIA today?




Ummm... no. There tends to be a high rate of sociopathy found in intelligence agents. Also, I was reading about mind control recently, and someone said something like "the key too a good intelligent agent, is installing a multiple personality" so it is likely a lot of these agents aren't even aware of some of the things they are doing.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by username000

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by sassyncute
 
Sweet avatar! It's fairly horrifying what some people are prepared to do to others.




Ummm... no. There tends to be a high rate of sociopathy found in intelligence agents. Also, I was reading about mind control recently, and someone said something like "the key too a good intelligent agent, is installing a multiple personality" so it is likely a lot of these agents aren't even aware of some of the things they are doing.


I like your way of thinking about the CIA agents although Multiple Personality is highly disputed. I could think the following is more relevant.

I am a stage hypnotist at the weekends with a friends of mine. I personally have been studying Hypnosis for about 9 years. I have learnt and studied everything from Conversational hypnosis to clinical hypnosis to self hypnosis and they all require one common denominator. Embedded commands. That two word sentence sounds very devious and is so. I fully believe and I have actually tried it out with many people that it is possible to Hypnotize someone against their will and have them carry out something even if it is not in their personality. The common belief that is pawned on people is that people will not do something under hypnosis that they would not do in real life.

This is not entirely true. I have often made people do things that are against their personality and I have also embedded the command so they can return the trance state days later and the sound of a trigger word.

Just something for you to think about.



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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reply to post by boondock-saint
 

Haha...yeah...here I was thinking it was all one big experiment started in earnest on or about July 4. 1776.


Originally posted by sassyncute
reply to post by GENERAL EYES
 


I fully believe what you said to be true. We are in some serious trouble if we fail to act soon!!


We? You going to help us? Not being from the US and all.

[edit on 8/14/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Aug, 14 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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There is absolutely no reason to think they ever stopped intrusive physiological/ psycological testing ( a la MK ULTRA) on unwitting citizens.




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