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The Independent UK: Afghanis Want Taliban Back
Originally posted by Skinon
reply to post by mobiusmale
At the end of the day YOUR country is not the 'good' guys, you are delusional. You shouldn't even be in those countries in the first place!!!!
If you werent there then no civilians would be getting killed because of the SHAM war your government is perpertrating!!
Originally posted by mobiusmale
Originally posted by Skinon
reply to post by mobiusmale
But when they decided to step outside of their impoverished hell-hole of a country, and try to project their world-view (via Al Qaeda) by way of an attack on New York and Washington civilians we decided to end their little reign of terror.
Are you for real? You have shown a complete lack of critical thinking. British born Ahmed Omar of Pakistani ISI wired the money to Mohammad Atta.
The Pittsburgh Tribune notes that there "are many in Musharraf's government who believe that Saeed Sheikh's power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA."
Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, in his book In the Line of Fire, stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state, "At some point, he probably became a rogue or double agent"
Keep digging if you want the truth...I doubt you do...
[edit on 10-8-2010 by SmokeandShadow]
But, are really trying to sell the idea that the Taliban were not murdering innocent civilians in large numbers before this war began...really? There were no civilians getting killed by the Taliban?
The fact of the matter is that (maybe wrongly) America, Canada, England, Germany, Australia (and more) were doing very little if anything about the on-going murderous campaign against the Afghan people that was being waged by the Taliban government.
But when they decided to step outside of their impoverished hell-hole of a country, and try to project their world-view (via Al Qaeda) by way of an attack on New York and Washington civilians we decided to end their little reign of terror.
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by mobiusmale
I'll hold your hand here:
The Independent UK: Afghanis Want Taliban Back
muslimmatters.org...
it contains links to the Independant article,
not to mention a little bit about what the people who are there think about it...
But hey, never let a few facts spoil a good opinion...
"Whatever the cause of the bloodshed, the local population almost always blames the foreign soldiers in their midst."
Why? Because they are misinformed or uninformed. I wonder if even that small minority would still support the Taliban if they realized that they are behind over 75% of the violence. Not likely.
Originally posted by LarryLove
reply to post by mobiusmale
Edit to say: See you around this thread has no purpose.
[edit on 10-8-2010 by LarryLove]
Originally posted by mobiusmale
1) I believe that Al Qaeda, at Bin Laden's bidding, was behind 9/11. Guilty.
2) I believe that the Taliban were in cahoots with Al Qaeda. Guilty.
3) I believe that the Taliban miscalculated the American reaction to the attack and got their hats handed to them. Guilty.
All of that aside...as it relates to this thread...
The Taliban, according to the source, is currently responsible for over 75% of Afghan civilian casualties. The Taliban...guilty!
Address yourselves to that, if you can muster the self-discipline, instead of blathering on about everything but the point of the thread.
Originally posted by LarryLove
so you are reading this article in the wrong way.
From 1 January to 30 June 2010, UNAMA Human Rights Unit documented 3,268 civilian casualties including 1,271 deaths and 1,997 injuries. AGEs were responsible for 2,477 casualties (76 per cent of all casualties, up 53 per cent from 2009) while 386 were attributed to PGF activities (12 per cent of all casualties, down 30 per cent from 2009).
The Guardian's article also attributes the reduction in civilian casualties to General Stanley McChrystal, who deployed harm reduction tactics in Afghanistan. I think if we look at the numbers of innocent lives killed over nearly ten years, NATO will account for a great many of them.