Cannibalism and the practice of eating Children.

I know that upon posting this I may be told how this is a hoax, or that this isn’t really happening.
This is of course a reasonable and normal response to such a radical concept.
I remember when I first discovered this back in 2001, and I called BS almost immediately. However seeing as how I was living in Asia at that time I was enlightened by several people who explained to me that indeed such things do occasionally occur albeit underground.

I’m in no way claiming that these acts are common place nor are they openly accepted. I’m just bringing it to light.
In addition to that let me cut to the chase before someone tries to corner me on it. I am NOT accusing anyone in Asia or anywhere else in the world of “murdering” children.

To me this is simply about being against the act of cannibalism across the board.
It just so happens that human fetuses cant protest much about being consumed, especially if they are already deceased i.e. through abortion or still born.
So please don’t get me with the following Ideal:

-->Prejudice and blood libel
The claim that eating babies or fetuses is a common and accepted practice in China (or Thailand, Japan, Korea, or Israel, etc.) is essentially a modern version of an ancient form of prejudice known as "blood libel" — one group accusing another of murdering infants during the course of ritual sacrifices. According to the Greeks, the Jews did it; according to the Romans, the Christians did it; according to the Christians, it really was the Jews who did it; and so on since time immemorial.

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Source:
urbanlegends.about.com...



Now the link below is chock full of horror. If you are like me and have children it may bother you more. WARNING!! The link below has some pictures that for some may be very disturbing. In addition to my warning you will receive a secondary upon clicking on this site.

www.weirdasianews.com...

Some may be asking where the conspiracy lies in such a macabre subject, well I’m about to tell you.
It lies in the prospect of “Baby Farming”. Yes I know even I laughed at the ridiculous nature of such a topic; however there may be some truth behind this.

Personally I prefer to call it trafficking as Baby farming sounds like a true urban legend.
According to About.coms Chinese eating babies urban legend, the whole thing is suspect to a hoax.
But further research actually produces some interesting finds concerning the ingestion of young human flesh.



As evidence I present the following:
An article from The Epoch Times (a multi-language, international newspaper, originally published in Chinese.) states that Hong Kong itself reports mainland Chinese are eating Infants. Their source is Next Magazine.

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Next Magazine

March 29, 2007
You have to be kidding right? Unfortunately this is really happening!
The Next Magazine, a weekly publication from Hong Kong, reported that infant corpses and fetuses have become the newest supplements for health and beauty in China. Not only is the placenta considered a beauty remedy, but also aborted fetuses are much sought after delicacies. In Guangdong, gourmet body parts are in high demand and can even be purchased through hospitals. The magazine's investigations into this form of cannibalism took them to Liaoning province.

According to The Next Magazine, during a banquet hosted by a Taiwanese businessman, a servant Ms Liu from Liaoning province on the mainland inadvertently revealed the habit of eating infants/fetuses in Liaoning province and her intention to return for the supplement due to health concerns. The Taiwanese women present were horrified.

Ms Liu also disclosed that even though people can afford the human parts there are still waiting lists and those with the right connections get the "highest quality" human parts, which translates to the more mature fetuses. A male fetus is considered the "prime" human part.

At the The Next Magazine's request, Ms Liu personally escorted the reporter to a location where a fetus was being prepared. The reporter observed a woman chopping up a male fetus and making soup from the placenta. During the process, the woman even tried to comfort everyone by saying, "Don't be afraid, this is just the flesh of a higher animal."

The boy's remains were cremated in the mountains in accordance with the customs of the region.
In fact, in China, reports about meals made from infant flesh have surfaced from time to time. A video is on the Internet for people to view. In the introduction, the Chinese claim that eating a human fetus is an art form.


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-->of cannibalism took them to Liaoning province.
According to The Next Magazine, during a banquet hosted by a Taiwanese businessman, a servant Ms Liu from Liaoning province on the mainland inadvertently revealed the habit of eating infants/fetuses in Liaoning province and her intention to return for the supplement due to health concerns. The Taiwanese women present were horrified.

Ms Liu also disclosed that even though people can afford the human parts there are still waiting lists and those with the right connections get the "highest quality" human parts, which translates to the more mature fetuses. A male fetus is considered the "prime" human part.

At the The Next Magazine's request, Ms Liu personally escorted the reporter to a location where a fetus was being prepared. The reporter observed a woman chopping up a male fetus and making soup from the placenta. During the process, the woman even tried to comfort everyone by saying, "Don't be afraid, this is just the flesh of a higher animal."

The boy's remains were cremated in the mountains in accordance with the customs of the region.
In fact, in China, reports about meals made from infant flesh have surfaced from time to time. A video is on the Internet for people to view. In the introduction, the Chinese claim that eating a human fetus is an art form.
On March 22, 2003, police in Bingyan, Guangxi Province seized 28 female babies smuggled in a truck from Yulin, Guangxi Province going to Houzhou in Anhui Province. The oldest baby was only three months old. The babies were packed three or four to a bag and many of them were near death—none were claimed by their parents.
On the morning of October 9, 2004, a person rifling through the garbage on the outskirts of Jiuquan city in the Suzhou region, found dismembered babies in a dumpster. There were two heads, two torsos, four arms, and six legs. According to the investigation, these corpses were no more than a week old and they had been dismembered after cooking.
Although China has laws that prohibit the eating of human fetus, the regime's forced abortions to ensure the one child policy is strictly adhered to thereby creating many opportunities for these sorts of atrocities to occur.
What would make people do such a thing without any fear of condemnation? Since Mao's Cultural Revolution, a complete lack of morality and respect for human life has become the norm in China. Over time, domination by the Chinese Communist regime has led to inhuman behavior and human rights violations resulting in abnormal practices such as cannibalism.

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en.epochtimes.com...

The question behind eating fetuses may elude some, but a little more research clears the air. It would seem that according to doctors eating said items is good for your overall health. Now I cant say this is true and in fact the act of consuming human flesh may actually be detrimental to your health. At any rate I have to question who these doctors are.
Are they mainstream medical professionals or are they the natural remedy type physicians that are quite common in Asia?

I remember once visiting an apothecary while in Kowloon, and The smell was such that I could barely breath. In this place they had virtually every thing you could imagine for every ailment that could afflict a person.

Suffice it to say there was far more there than I could readily identify, but among other things I saw dried bat, snake, fish, apparently animal penis, and insects. Many of the items listed aside from offering remedies to potential illness apparently also offer the added benefit of over all health. Such things include increasing male libido or enhancement as we call it in the west. Good vision, longer life, more elastic skin, the list is endless.

So with the ideas abounding behind personal health in alternative medicines and consumables, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to assume the above story true.

Along with this there is the art world. Shock art, extreme art take your pick. This is something that has been around a long time. I don’t have to name the practices of these groups around the world as a simple Google will speak for me.
Where eating humans is concerned I found this article in the BBC news website from 2002:
'Baby-eating' artist sparks TV row”
news.bbc.co.uk...


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Such an article is refreshing due to the response from what was dubbed the ministry of culture. This essentially proves that such actions are not sanctioned by the Chinese government or the majority of the people; at least not in the open.

This individual Yu, is the same one found on the about.com site I posted above.
That site alleges that he is possibly lying on the grounds that he is an artist.
An about.com poll suggests that the majority believe he is telling the truth.
In the world of extreme art I have to agree.

Disgusting acts are for some reason appealing to what I can only hope are a few.
For some reason peoples morbid curiosity compels them to gawk at the most hideous of act. How two girls one cup became viral I’ll never know.


Another article from the Seoul Times reported a similar account about the eating of kiddos.

WARNING!
theseoultimes.com.../ST/db/read.php?idx=7333

Then there is this:

-->No one could accuse The Chinese of being squeamish about the things they eat ~ monkeys’ brains, owls’ eyes, bears’ paws and deep fried scorpions are all items on The menu. But most dishes revered as national favorites sound as harmless as boiled rice when compared to the latest pint de jour allegedly gaining favor in Shenzhen ~ human fetus.

Rumors that dead embryos were being used as dietary supplements started to spread early last year with reports that some doctors in Shenzhen hospitals were eating dead fetuses after carrying out abortions. The doctors allegedly defended their actions by saying the embryos were good for their skin and general health.

A trend was set and soon reports circulated that doctors in the city were promoting fetuses as a human tonic. Hospital cleaning women were seen fighting each other to take the treasured human remains home. Last month, reporters from EastWeek ~ a sister publication of Eastern Express ~ went to Shenzhen to see if the rumors could be substantiated.

On March 7, a reporter entered the state-run Shenzhen Heath Center for Women and Children feigning illness and asked a female doctor for a fetus. The doctor said the department was out of stock but to come again.
The next day the reporter returned at lunch time. The doctor eventually emerged from the operating theatre holding a fist size glass bottle stuffed with thumb-sized fetuses.

She said: “There are 10 fetuses here, all aborted this morning. You can take them. We are a state hospital and don’t charge anything.
“Normally, we doctors take them home to eat – all free. Since you don’t look well, you can take them.”

Not every state hospital is as generous with its dead embryos as the Health Center for Women and Children. At the Shenzhen People’s Hospital, for example, the reporter was in for a surprise.

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This source comes from a 1995 article out of the Hong Kong Eastern Express.
I picked it off a religious website that had one hell of a die hard agenda. An agenda that looks to criminalize all Chinese as apparently godless child murdering communists.

NOW THAT’S BLOOD LIBEL!

That website is here:
snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com...

It claims that you can contact an individual named Bruce Gilley who works for the news paper at a couple of numbers listed.

To any westerner who has lived in Asia I do believe it may be at least a little believable that such things might occur. I know I’m currently living in an Asian country and the things I see still surprise me. It really is an alien place to the west in many ways. Not everyone shares the views of the West on grounds of morality and ethics.

The question at least for me anyway still remains. Is child harvesting occurring anywhere in the world? Be it for health, exotic food, or aphrodisiac, the possibilities have to exist.
Maybe some have heard of “ A Modest Proposal” By Jonathan Swift (1729)
According to Swift to prevent children from being a burden to their families who couldn’t afford them, and to make them useful to society, he proposed that the families eat them.

From what I understand he even went so far as to request a peace of human flesh from a medical facility, thereafter consuming it for “scientific research”.
You can enjoy the Modest Proposal here:
art-bin.com...

Though I have doubts about his sincerity, the simple fact that it was considered as a possible solution is rather gritty.
I leave the conspiracy up to you, Baby farms, fetus trafficking and hospital take out, be it in China or anywhere else in the word I think that in the end anything is possible.








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One of these days these monsters will pay for such
atrocities.I don't even want to think of what would
happen if they had a famine.

It really does take all kinds to make the world....all kinds of sick degenerte bast%^&*RDS!
These things are beyond having trials over....just put one behind the ear of anyone with grease on his lips.
yech

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There are many cases of cannibalism throughout history, though most seem to be due to survival. I would think that anyone could be driven to Cannibalism under the proper circumstances. Everybody that is, except for me.

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Now hold on there trigger.
I want to make it clear. These fetuses from what I can see are dead upon delivery, presumably from abortions.

At least I hope. In any case eating people is certainly a taboo, but I don’t think they are killing them to ingest.

People are doing things like this allover the world I’m sure.

Let me clarify for my self, dead or alive I'm not for eating the other white meat. I'm just pointing out that I don't think they are effectively murdering for the purposes exotic food. I could be wrong however.


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That is the most f*'d up thing I've ever heard of - I knew in China they ate puppies (that's bad enough) but this is outrageous!!! God help us... What is happening to the human race???

well it doesn't seem like much of a slide to go from using fetus material in vaccines to ingesting as a source of food or "cure" for something, once you start down that road.
Seems like some folks are drawn to doing things like this just because it seems "taboo" right?

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That's actually the direction I'm going with this.
That to some cultures and people all over the world, doing something taboo can eventually become common practice.

I heard that even some shampoos contain fetus material. I need to verify that though.

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I have seen shampoo on the shelves with placenta in it, not sure about the fetus, but it would not suprise me at all.

I know there was a stink a while back about beauty creams with aborted fetus cells in it.

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The babies may be dead upon arrival, but the way I read this article is that women/couples are making the choice to sell these aborted babies for this purpose. Have I read this wrong?

theseoultimes.com.../ST/db/read.php?idx=7333

This time it was a couple who have two daughters and this third one was confirmed to be a daughter again. So the couple aborted the baby which was five months old. Those baby who is close to be born and die naturally costs 2000 in China currency. Those aborted ones cost a few hundreds in China currency. Those couples who did not want to sell dead babies, placentas can be accepted also for couple of hundreds.

This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard. Eating dead babies is disgusting and revolting, but the couples who are selling them for the purpose of having them eaten, well, that makes it that much worse.
It is making me sick to my stomach.

I hope everyone understands that I didn't post this as a form of entertainment, and If I make light of it it's only because it stresses me.

I in absolutely no way condone or defend the actions of the individuals described herein or anywhere else this may be occurring.

I am fully aware of how utterly disgusting this topic is and it is a harsh thing to face.
Maybe I'm less effected now because I was exposed to it nearly 10 years ago.
None the less It is a disturbing topic which I think more people should address for the sake of everyone.

Another example was I believe a main stream news agency attempting to save a 7 year old from a cannibalistic ritual that was apparently going down in Papua new guinea. Needles to say I think they were unsuccessful.

I'm going to look for the article now.

-->In September 2006, Australian television crews from ''60 Minutes'' and ''Today Tonight'' attempted to rescue a six-year-old boy who they believed would be ritually cannibalized by his tribe, the Korowai, from Papua, Indonesia.

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Source:
tripatlas.com...

This is the article I was looking for.

We find a little boy looking scared and confused. Wa-Wa is six years old and he has been condemned to death all because his mum and dad died suddenly. And the people in his village think that he is a sorcerer, he's evil?

CORNELIUS: Yeah, they're suspicious, starting suspicious, that this kid's become as a sorcerer.

BEN FORDHAM: But Wa-Wa's family and friends are determined to protect him. He has been brought here to safety, to this village, a long way from the Kakua killers, and our guide, Cornelius, has taken him under his wing. How old do the villagers wait until they would kill this boy?

CORNELIUS: It could be between starting from 15 years old, 16 years old.

BEN FORDHAM: So at least he's safe for now. The villagers assured us this was the best place for him, that Wa-Wa would never be able to cope if he was suddenly taken out of the Stone Age and dropped into the 21st century. When he's a bit older, he can decide for himself whether to leave his people.

CORNELIUS: I think as long as he's staying with the family, as the family is strong enough to protect him, he will be safe, I think.

BEN FORDHAM: It wasn't easy saying goodbye to Wa-Wa. But then, who are we to impose our ways, our ideas of what's right and what's wrong on the ancient Korowai? What about this poor little boy, Wa-Wa?

PAUL RAFFAELE: He's being protected in this village here by a powerful section of his family. This is the toughest question I've ever faced and I've been thinking about it for many years. I mean, what do we do? Okay, we don't understand that they kill and eat each other, but to them, that's very important, at the very soul of their being, so my feeling, my desperate feeling is let them be as they are, because within 20 or 30 years, it'll be all over anyway.

Source: sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au...


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reply to post by snowen20

I agree, there is no way this should be condoned anywhere in the world.
Sadly Cannibalism has been around almost as long as we humans have, and I really doubt there is a end in site.

as far as selling the children just for this purpose, you and I both know, that if there is a demand for something, someone will supply that demand no matter how wrong it is...

but at least in our "civilized" nations, we do not make a habit of eating dead babies..we just use them for other things :-(

I for one am glad you posted this topic, more people need to be aware

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Fine point you make there.

Here is the crux of the issue where this is concerned.
That people will if in straights dire enough sell anything for relief.

Desperation has always been a ground to justify some of the most horrid acts in human history.

Where I currently reside, people have been known on quite a few occasions to sell their children in to sex slavery to foreigners for less than the price of a plasma screen.

So if a parent would be willing to allow their child to be sexually violated by a pervert with a penchant for small children, the question is why wouldn’t someone sell their child to be food. Considering that they need the money and haven’t really become familiar with their child, I can see this happening. It is sad to say the least.

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Ouch
I could have gone all day without seeing that pic Xynephadyn
But it sure is a reminder of how low we humans will sink.

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Uhh, wow, am I missing something?
Was there an additional contribution I missed?

I noticed something deleted.

reply to post by snowen20


it was a good post that included a rather graphic pic of a man setting down to eat a plate of some "special meat" like we have been discussing.

It was pretty hard to look at