Originally posted by mrmulder
According to the article below it was Dick Cheney who wanted to go to Mars but not to find new signs of life but to search for oil reserves because Earth is running out. If this is true then we are being lied to once again by the government.

Well before Id even say that this is a bad move you would have to prove that the stated goal of the Mars Exploration is to discover life.

Our objective in space exploration is to expand our boundaries not to conduct solely scientific research. Now even if oil was discovered it would be years before it could be efficiently shuttled too and from Mars.

Mars is our next step in colonization of another planet, and researching its history will be second to making our own history.

Im sure any administration who helmed the exploration of another planet would have it searched for useful natural deposits or resources.

lol
That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. I feel sorry for people who do and are going to believe that.
Kinda sad that so many people have such a blind hatred for this administration that they'd believe obvious bs.


As far as going for oil instead of life, well...there will be no oil if there was no life.

I don't think that is accurate. What do they do with the oil if/when they find it on Mars? Send it back to Earth? At what cost? lol I can see gas being well over $1000/gallon if that were true. I just read the article too and I still think it a load a bs. Right now to send something into low Earth orbit is $1000/pound. How much would it cost to get a pound of something from Mars, even in the near future?

Well I cetainly hope it's a bunch of bs. You're right. Gas would be too high if that were true. I wasn't sure what to make of the article myself but when it comes to the U.S. government they can have a secret agenda and not tell anybody about it. Who knows.

It's one of the most preposterous ideas I've seen here!

I hope they didn't kill a tree in order to put this article in print.

This just may be the dumbest article I've ever seen posted on ATS. First, the cost of going to mars, exploring it for oil, drilling the oil, then bringing it back to earth on a continual basis is unimaginable. What are you gonna do, set up a pipeline from earth to mars to get it back, or just keep flying it back, ship by ship? It's laughable! I almost hope that some liberal finds this article and tries to make a headline about it just to I can get another good laugh at it's stupidity!

[edit on 17-6-2004 by mpeake]

Originally posted by gemron
I hope they didn't kill a tree in order to put this article in print.

Hey, there's alot of articles that aren't in print just like this one that have more credibility in terms of truth.

I thought we went to Mars to see if mars had rocks?

We discovered beyond resonable doubt that mars does in fact have rocks now we are checking saturn out. I think it is very possible that rocks may be all over our universe. Dust is the building blocks of rocks and we know that distant suns have dust around them! The remaining question is weather that dust does become rock throughout the universe or do we have the only solar system that has rocks. I guess none of us will live long enough to find out but we can hope. Soon I hear we may send man to collect rocks on mars..



[edit on 17-6-2004 by Xeven]

Hey, there's alot of articles that aren't in print just like this one that have more credibility in terms of truth.

How can there be article that's not in print? Isn't that what an article is? Something that someone printed? Otherwise it's just something someone said. Besides, if there are other articles on this then where are they?

We could build a Trans- Planetary pipeline. hehe.

I think I saw that on a cartoon once.

I believe that Dick Cheney is really more interested in going to the moon rather than mars. Oil is old school, the mega fortunes of the future will be made with helium3. While rare here it is plentiful on luna. I have read claims that a shuttle load could power the USA for a decade. helium3 should give off little radiation when fused in lightweight reactors, with only a small amount of sheilding necessary.
And then there is allways the possibility of a nuclearweapon that has little or no fall out.
Remember always follow the money.

Maybe they're gonna build a pipe-line between here and Mars.

Other than that, it's gonna be one hell of a big ship.

hummm..let me think a little about that theory...:


lets start just assuming some things:

- acording to geology, in order to exist "oil", life must had deied first! (organic decomposition, fossilization, ect. so we need life to have oil...(just resuming)

- so...if we assume that the mars mission was only to find "oil", then we will be forced to assume that at least they have knoledge that life was on mars....get it?

this can be very interesting to think if we realy can belive that they are there seeking oil!

Finding Oil on another planet is one thing, but how do you suggest transporting it back to earth? And how will it be cost efficient in any way?

Theres a few billion barrels of oil being pumped around the globe and used every year. How the hell is anyone gona be able to transport that kind of quantity's from another plannet?

Transporting the oil by itself, if posible, would be a rather hazardous thing to do too.
You would have to transport it in massive quantity's and the ships would need to be 1000000% failproof. What would happen if just 1 supertanker sized spaceship filled with oil broke up and spilled its cargo in the atmosphere?


Then the environmental aspect.

Every planet has a ballance and natural cycles that are in a ballance, over the last 100 years we already pulled this planet out of that ballance, what would happen if we brought non native fosilized fuel from another planet here? We would add even more CO2 to the system, for wich the planet never had and never will have a way to react to.

This is in every posible aspect a non feasable and dumb idea to do imho.

Gas prices will skyrocket ... ha ha ha PUN intended!

tompaine.com should keep the mental health sector of the economy strong for many years to come, unfortunately. These people are sick and desperately in need of serious help. I wonder if they're allowed to venture outdoors without escorts?

you people ARE aware that oil is the bi-product of large amounts of large, multi-cellular life, dying and decomposing, right? the same as coal. in other words, it's a pretty good bet, Mars doesn't have a drop

I wish it was true...then maybe we'd actually get there....instead of having smoke blown up our asses....