63 Years Later, Is There Anyone That Still Denies The Crash Of A UFO At Roswell ?

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Toxicsurf
Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer at the most elite bomber group in the entire US at the time, who already had extensive radar training, couldn't distinguish the remains of a balloon carrying radar targets?

He said there was too much debris to be a weather balloon, and he was right. It wasn't a weather balloon. What was it? Let's check the 1947 report for the description:

www.ufologie.net...

The next day he first heard about the flying disks, and he wondered if what he had found might be the remnants of one of these.

When the debris was gathered up the tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks made a bundle about 18 or 20 inches long and about 5 inches thick. In all, he estimated, the entire lot would have weighed maybe five pounds

Considerable scotch tape and some tape with flowers printed upon it had been used in the construction.

That's way too much debris for a weather balloon. So Marcel was right when he said it wasn't a weather balloon. But it doesn't sound other-worldly, since "Considerable scotch tape ... had been used in the construction".

You do realize that was Brazel's statement, AFTER hew was sequestered and intimidated by the Army. Marcel's statements are the ones that should be looked at and followed up on. According to all involved, the Brazels weren't exactly the brightest bulbs in town and had all the reasons in the world to toe the Army line. Especially since it got him a new truck and freezer when he was poorer than dirt....

I suggest you read Jesse Marcel Jr.'s book if you havent already. I'm certainly not going to debate the Roswell crash here....it's pointless...

Originally posted by Toxicsurf
You do realize that was Brazel's statement, AFTER hew was sequestered and intimidated by the Army. Marcel's statements are the ones that should be looked at and followed up on.

Marcel also describes foil and sticks, same as Brazel, though in Marcel's description nothing happens to the foil if you hit it with a sledgehammer. Same with my foil at home.

If the Army was going to intimidate Brazel into making up a lie, why wouldn't they at least have him say a lie that matches their cover story of a weather balloon?

That's way too much debris for a weather balloon so the implication that he was coerced by the Army into telling a lie that doesn't even match the cover story makes no sense at all to me.

My vote is still that what was found was a stray experimental rocket or possibly aircraft prototype launched by the Nazis over in White Sands and lost from radar as a result of the storms. Something the Army would still not like the general public to know about.

The story that hit the papers was a result of some typical Army-type SNAFU, which if you've ever been in the military you know can reach epic proportions. Sure, there was a cover-up. But once they got the secret Nazi rocket or flying wing or whatever back under wraps, the rest of it involved the Army trying to cover up how badly they screwed the pooch. Certainly, considering the potential scope of the event, the daily paperwork generated by the base at the time (and there is plenty of it around) doesn't really show anything much happening out of the ordinary.

As for all the rest of the stories -- many of them conflicting and inconsistent -- without any actual pieces of material available for somebody to look at, it's all just dramatic hearsay and "misremembering" decades after the fact. Not even a tiny little bit of good hard proof is available to back it up.

At the end of the day, whatta you got? Nothing.