Originally posted by technical difficulties
I'm usually skeptical, but I'm willing to give this one a chance. I really want to believe this, so i'm willing to try to learn it firsthand.
1. Can anyone learn this?
2. How long would it take to learn this?
3. Are there are good free websites for learning this?
4. Does it only work if I suspend all disbelief?
5. How accurate is it (basically, can I read a person's exact thoughts, or is it vague)?
6. Does it become more accurate with practice?
1. I'm not sure, as I don't know what everyone individually has to work with. I can speculate such theories of evolving equal consciousness
interlinked, of which seems so true to me but my only concern is what I can do with such ideas... what practicality I can get from it and hope to
impart that on others if it is true. So... I don't know.. sure.. everyone has different opinions like genetic factors, which I think arent' issues
at all given what I have observed. I don't know you, but i'm going to go ahead and say I bet you could learn it, and accomplish quite a lot.
Don't underestimate your ability to learn and self-discipline.
2. For me its been an on-going process. I've noticed there is a huge perspective and sensory change over the course of a year, its been 4 years since
I started meditating and exploring these ideas. For some people it may be automatic, like a trigger.. others may never accomplish it in this lifetime
because they lack some understanding or simply refuse to trust in these ideas because of some indoctrinated self-doubt of a differing view of life.
3. There's enough sites that will tell you little techniques to practice but nothing beats a conceptual pointer, opinions from peers. You really do
all learning by yourself, what others teach you is always up to your final interpretation and application. If I had to suggest a place to start...
meditation...learn to meditate very simply, its the base of disciplining the factors involved with such things though some people do it fine without
it, it certainly helps. and develops your awareness of your environment. It gives you a more efficient mind and understanding of its workings.
4. I don't know, does it? To me metaphysics is like walking the path of stubbornness. You think you know, but you continue to doubt and get results
hammered into your head. I can speak of one sensory thing I have that I kind of only really started to notice last year and its at the point where I
feel like 90% trust in it as being legitamate..but I still have my doubts.. its part of the ego.. the "reasoning".. for human existence I wouldn't
say that's a bad thing to posess.. not unless you just want to paint yourself red, grow a long beard, sit on a rock and meditate the rest of your
I'm skipping 5 for now.
6. Back to my opening post.. you kind of put the pieces together within your own mind, you work on understanding what it means to be you, why you
think, how you react etc etc... really, throw away the spiritual persuit... you're jumping ahead... just work on exploring yourself, ideas, with an
open mind... whatever revelations come out of it get YOU.. you don't have to chase after them. You don't GET WISE... you just be humble..admit that
you could be wrong...and observe.. new ideas come and you embrace the posibilities... that's how you get wise my friend. What does this have to do
with accuracy of ESP? Again, a whole integrated system of living, and thinking, feeling... self-doubt is a huge factor, its your reasoning but
reasoning finds itself in a reasonable place once what happening "makes sense"...based on the details of your reasoning. To me this in conjunction
with mental discipline and expansion of awareness by removing the clutter, fear, insecurity, overanalyzing..chooseing when to think rather then have a
chaotic mind... all sorts of things... clarity expands and the senses I passed off as nothing before begin to become more noticeable to the point of
irritation and distraction, electronics / wires/magnetism can be irritating.. metals next to skin and then of course people and what they "put out
there". And no, its not anxiety and some sensitive "i have issues" thing, if you look into it seriously. Give yourself some credit.. you devote
yourself to removing such insecurities through your discplinary lifestyle. It doesn't make sense that you would all of a sudden develop such a
"dissorder" when you become so much more ..."chill"...
What i'm saying dude is a little discipline opens pandoras box, because it can be rough what you become aware of... however you interpret it
as..."ESP".. or "anxiety".. but it may arise as a result of meditation.
It's a way of life for me, because I have new things I sense and have to balance for.. I mean I don't have to, but If I do I'll always be calm,
open, clear, healthy, you get the point.
I won't elaborate further, you get the idea... try not thinking of it like a SKILL.. and think of it more like a result... like... you notice how
your senses dull after a cup of coffee.. you become more aloof, don't notice things etc.... think of it as a result of a sobering process for the
most part.. you train it, but it really is like sobering up from drug you don't know is even inhibiting you right now.. so sober up!
5. How accurate.. that's a tough one and in my opinion, if you can get to the level of 95% accuracy there's probably no doubt in your mind what you
are doing. For me it's fleeting moments and no I can't read someone's mind but I'll hear words they're about to say... I can feel the energetic
shift... I'll think about a topic and then feel if they picked up on and think "damn, they're going to bring that up".. and it works both ways, I
can pick it off them and surprise them.. I never do though but I should call people on it more, just to freak em out. So to me its more like feeling
the shifts in environment, like a chance in air pressure but you feel it and there is an interpretation attached to it that comes instantly. For me I
can think of a person, and the same way I can feel my energy, I can feel theres.. I can feel their mood and I haven't verified this enough for
accuracy.. but I can sense tension/hostility and the latter being peace and good will towards you etc.. for instance I had a really bad falling out
with an ex girlfriend some months ago, I wanted to make peace so bad but that woman was a fierce one!.. anyways.. a few days ago I thought of her and
did the sensing thing and felt a benevolence, not just peace but like a happyness towards me.. and i was like wow... 2 days later she messaged me
all happy saying she wasn't mad anymore, that she liked my art, that she wanted to hang out etc..
So you know.. this is just one example... its kind of like sensing changes in air pressure... or feeling a certain way thinking about a person that is
removed from your own emotional bias.. to simply observe without a preconceived idea.
Another cool one is I know when people are listening to my conversation and from what direction and how they feel about it, i catch em and its funny..
again.. just like feeling a change in the air along with an interpretation that comes to mind, you dont have to look for it, it bombards your
There's a whole bunch of other things really but what stands out as how simple it is to me and how I was noticing these things all the time
throughout my life, i was just too unaware to notice them.... its like when it happened in the past you're like "oh, thats stange, i wonder
if??"..*new thought enters your mind and you forget*... but years later after all the discipline you're like "oh..... OHHHHH... HMM... MAYBE..thats
possible..".. and then it happens 100+ more times before you stubbornly accept there may be something to it as novelty.. before it becomes something
tangible you can work with.. I'm only interested if I can rely on that sense. I get "visuals" all the time, but they sure as hell aren't always
I hope any of that sheds some light on the process involved. Its different for everyone I imagine, as it has much to do with your interpretation,
discipline, awareness and just who you know yourself as a person. Some people are simply born with it, but if you ask me, you look in their eyes and
they just look more "here"... then most. More attentive.
Anyways, peace. Feel free to ask more and i'll give my opinion based on experience. I have no answers, just ideas you can use.