"Rangel Again Calls For Military Draft", page 1
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reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 08:57 PM by TheFinalTruth14
I'm completely against this as a believer in freedom.

But in an ideal world, I think it would be important. Why not have each individual to use weapons and defend themselves? Those same individuals could later save themselves from the government when it oversteps its boundaries.

But in the world we live in today, there is absolutely no argument anyone can have to send people unwillingly to murder others. That is why Muhammad Ali will forever be a hero to me.

"Man, I ain't got no quarrel with the Viet Cong."

"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years."

-- A true American


reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 09:26 PM by snowspirit
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It's a ridiculous world when a person has to go to jail for refusing to mass murder people.

TPTB say life is so precious they wouldn't even work with stem cells til now, but they'll send kids into a war to fight. I even heard Obama's press secretary refer to the soldiers as "our children" the other day.


reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 10:08 PM by ~Lucidity
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I was going to go with yearly tradition...but your assessment is probably more accurate. Still it's good to have this debate every now and then...


reply posted on 15-7-2010 @ 11:55 PM by Rocker-Mtl
Originally posted by TheFinalTruth14
I'm completely against this as a believer in freedom.

But in an ideal world, I think it would be important. Why not have each individual to use weapons and defend themselves? Those same individuals could later save themselves from the government when it oversteps its boundaries.

But in the world we live in today, there is absolutely no argument anyone can have to send people unwillingly to murder others. That is why Muhammad Ali will forever be a hero to me.

"Man, I ain't got no quarrel with the Viet Cong."

"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years."

-- A true American


S&F to OP


Star to you ! the fianaltruth14 for a very well written post of true reality and honesty !


reply posted on 16-7-2010 @ 12:15 AM by AudioGhost
We have military stationed ALL over the world. The list is pretty large Belgium, Cuba, Germany, Greece, Greenland, Guam, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Signapore, South Korea, Spain, Turkey, and the UK.

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Why should we draft at home when thier should be more than plenty of troops at these bases? Bring them boys home or send them to war, don't make them live outside of the country. Actually if we brought them all home, imagine the unemployment rate then....
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