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School sports day ban for father with no criminal records check

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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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School sports day ban for father with no criminal records check


www.dailymail.co.uk

A school turned a father away from his son's first sports day after banning parents who have not been checked by police from mixing with pupils.

The taxi driver had gone to watch his son, a year seven pupil, compete in sprints and egg-and-spoon races.

But teachers refused to let him spectate because they did not believe he had undergone checks by the Criminal Records Bureau.
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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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I am just coming to the end of my tether with this country. However this is not a government edict, it is just shocking management by the school with an insanely over the top policy.

This man acted very honourably in not causing any fuss for his son, but what heartache at having to miss his son's first sports day.

www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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Anyone else had any experience of this?

I can't believe it happened.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 11:52 AM
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Wow, this country is getting rather crazy isn't it.

If it's not the govt it's something or someone else in the system. Since when do you need a background check to watch your kid balance an egg on a spoon?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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People wonder why the world is in the state it is today...
we should have figured out how to do things right by now
you might think...
but sadly no:
well if you can't do teach

"According to education Web site FamilyEducation.com, the U.S. Department of Education found that home-schooled students had exceptional test scores in comparison to public- and private-school students. Home-schooled students' scores at every grade level in all subjects were considerably higher than those of their traditional-school counterparts."

"Read more: Best Way - Is Home Schooling an Effective Method of Education? | eHow.com www.ehow.com..."
www.ehow.com...



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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This has been the norm for quite some time.

You realize that the little kid who has the misfortune of having a pervy criminal for a parent will be at the school event looking at your child to see if they make a good target if you have your way...right?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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I thought this sounded familiar.

A similar story from last year...

Guess it's still going on and getting worse. Too bad really. Sounds like overzealousness in protecting everyone is backfiring into a nightmare.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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How utterly retarded.

First of all, kid's are taken away from convicted child molester's. So how would one even have a kid at the school ??

Dumb, bored hysterical teachers and staff, stop watching CSI and reading MSN, ..... join the real world, people don't have time to get background check's so they can watch their kid jump around in a sack ok, this is extremely impractical and devoid of common sense or relation to reality.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Danbones
People wonder why the world is in the state it is today...
we should have figured out how to do things right by now
you might think...
but sadly no:
well if you can't do teach

"According to education Web site FamilyEducation.com, the U.S. Department of Education found that home-schooled students had exceptional test scores in comparison to public- and private-school students. Home-schooled students' scores at every grade level in all subjects were considerably higher than those of their traditional-school counterparts."

"Read more: Best Way - Is Home Schooling an Effective Method of Education? | eHow.com www.ehow.com..."
www.ehow.com...





Only question mark about homeschooling for me is the socialisation of the children.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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Yeah but the kid with the supportive parent will be the one who pays for it. Sex offenders have to register after all, it wouldn't be that hard to find out. Even for the school system.

So if that pervy parent wasn't on the list then he wouldn't have sent up red flags on the check anyway. The Sex Offender registry is a matter of public record. How can you honestly say this is good policy especially when anyone can check to see who the sex offenders in the area are.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by spacedonk

Only question mark about homeschooling for me is the socialisation of the children.


If I ever have kids, they will be homeschooled. I dont need the government indoctrination.

I know many families that currently are, or have raised children at home. They come out smarter, better human beings. As for socialising. Thats up to the parents. Most I know still let their kids go to HS football games, they all have friends, go fishing, hunting, whatever it is kids do.

As far as a background check to attend sports with your children, if the school is that worried about it, they should be the ones checking with the local authorities. How much sense does it make to not let the father attend an event, then let the kid go back home with him?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 01:08 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it be against the constitution for the school to deny a parent access to this event based upon a crime for which they were tried, convicted and served their time?

In a certain sense it's like double jeopardy. Now, I'm not advocating that we let convicted sex offenders attend school functions, but, as was said before, a convicted sex offender wouldn't have a child under their care.

In the atmosphere we live in today it seems that people feel it's their duty to overstep the boundaries of their responsibilities and in cases like this it's verging on vigilantism. A person's criminal record should be their own personal business and accesible only under certain circumstances such as a consideration for employment or by law enforcment when stopped for whatever the reason may be.

I'm getting very tired of being forced to provide my social security number for the most trivial of reasons simply so (lord knows how many) people can access my criminal, educational, and financial history.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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This is just stupid.

It would have been so easy to kick up a fuss and thus really embarrass his child.

I would be tempted to withdraw my child fom the school, but then he would go through the anguish of changing school, making new friends etc, not the easiest thing for some children.

Maybe we have this all arse first though.
Maybe we should be asking why there are so many peodophiles out there in the first place and we should have measures in place that ensures we know at all times when any known nonce is doing!

We should not have to prove our innocence.
Once convicted, (personally I'd lock them away for life but...?), there should be something in place that immediately identifies someone as a peodophile.

And before the politically correct apologists start wowling maybe they should save some of their sympathy for the children these evil beasts have abused.
They gave up their human rights when they abused a child's!



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 05:47 PM
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authority can pick on a normal dad while the real putrid purps just carry on and on...

The shocking story of Holly Grieg
mccannexposure.wordpress.com...

"Medical and other evidence supported Hollie`s account and Grampian Police accepted the truth of Hollie`s statement. Nonetheless, no action was taken by Grampian Police against the perpetrators and despite Anne Greig`s persistence, the Procurator Fiscal, now Lord Advocate, Elish Angiolini prevented any police action taking place.

In fact, the authorities instead attempted to discredit and intimidate Anne by having her forcibly taken to a mental institution, with the intention of handing Hollie back to her abuser father. Fortunately, Anne Greig had the presence of mind to have herself checked by a leading psychiatrist, who proclaimed her perfectly sane, a view with which even the institution were forced to concur."

"The Franklin Scandal
The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators nearly exposed the ring in 1990, but its unveiling had the potential to produce seismic political aftershocks.The legislators' efforts resulted in rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering corruption of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI, Secret Service, and Justice Department, effecting an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network."
franklinscandal.com...










[edit on 8-7-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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This is what you get when you have millions of pen pushing parasites woking for goverment without haveing a real job to do.

Lets extend this so it includes mums also and lets have a detailed investigation into the backgrounds of all teachers.

You are all be programed not to question and to jump when you are told so they can get you to jump off a bridge when told.

i'm so happy to see jobs going in the public sector but it will be pen pushers cutting frontline jobs if we let them

When a state needs 50% of what you earn to provide a so called service then something is very wrong indeed and soon they will be adding another 2.5% on to that with the new VAT rises and even then they are borrowing millions from the IMF.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 07:47 AM
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"The shocking story of Holly Grieg "

Yes nail on the head.

a few millions people now know about the rape of this little girl and still TPTB won't investigate so you tell me if our justice system is anything if it's not just being used to protect corporations and fill the pockets of bent politicians.

Funney these parasites in local goverment are always telling me about health and saftey but don't give a $hit when someone is in hospital and dieing as they keep putting urgent operations back.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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We are developing a culture or prevalent ethos of paranoia and "holier than thou"ism. It almost seems like there is a competition to appear to be the most upstanding, vigilant, purest person/agency in the community along with an eagerness to demand proof from everyone else that they match up to the standard.

Who is fostering this? What rewards are people getting for being such pompous busybodies? The only answer I can see is that this is at least partially a result of the free-wheeling habit of suing everyone and every institution over anything possible. The lawyers are profiting over human frailty and turning everyone paranoid over getting sued.

I don't think anyone saw that one coming. Until the lawyers get reigned in, this kind of silly over-compensating is only going to get worse.

I feel sorry for that kid, and his dad who was just trying to do the kind of thing all dads should be doing -- supporting their kid's in everything they do.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
This has been the norm for quite some time.

You realize that the little kid who has the misfortune of having a pervy criminal for a parent will be at the school event looking at your child to see if they make a good target if you have your way...right?



Since when would a CRB check prevent that? It only stops the ones that have been caught previously. How do you think you still get teachers being caught as pervs?

I'm not saying CRB checks a pointless, but just wholly ineffective against someone who has escaped conviction thus far, of whom, unfortunately there are a horrifyingly high number.

This case however is taking the CRB system too far IMO. Even if one of the parents is a perv, they couldn't actually harm any of the kids on school property, with all the teachers and parents looking after them.

Why don't we just take our kids, wrap them in cotton wool and have them hermetically sealed, in a safe room until they're 18 and then just release them into the world?

The world is not a safe place. That is the risk we take by having kids in the first place. They may get hurt. It's horrible to think about, but that's life I'm afraid. I see so many kids today (I work in a college) who are just so naive about the world and very much emotionally retarded and unable to handle their emotions, as they enter into the adulthood, simply because they haven't been allowed to properly experience the world, as I did as a kid, and I'm only 28 now!!



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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It would be if this were the USA, but it's good old socialist, control the masses with fear and political correctness, UK were talking about here.



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