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Topic started on 14-6-2004 @ 12:37 PM by quadricle
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This is pretty interesting.....seems to have taken place sometime last year.
Photo of Fiery Object Mystifies Scientists
"A Welsh schoolboy's impressed Nasa after taking
an amazing picture of what seems to be a meteor
while he was out skateboarding."
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link:
www.space.com...
news.bbc.co.uk...
what do you guys think it is?
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:39 PM by earthtone
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That looks incredible. Can I just ask at this point, in light of the recent Aussie bloke MADNESS, why are all these reports of meteors coming in?
There was one in New Zeland and a few more right? Am I just paranoid?
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:42 PM by quadricle
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nothing to worry about...pic was from last year 2003
besides these occurences are apperantly quite frequent (in one form or another) it's just that we don't pay attention to them [at 1st]..
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:44 PM by earthtone
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True, it just suddenly seemd like there was a rush of reports. Glad to know these things happen regularly.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:44 PM by spacedoubt
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I kinda remember this.
If I recall, it was determined to be a contrail from a jet.
It was taken close to sunset, and only the bulbous
portion of the trail was still being illuminated by the sun.
This made it look like a smoke trail with an explosion towards one end.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:48 PM by titian
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It was explained by NASA as the reflection of sunlight off a plane's tail.
Here's the original bbc article:
news.bbc.co.uk...
Here's their followup:
news.bbc.co.uk...
I never completely bought this story.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:51 PM by muppet
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A contrail? I can't believe it.
If it's genuine (and it certainly looks that way to me) it looks more like meteor.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 12:59 PM by spacedoubt
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Muppet,
Yeah, pretty sure a contrail..
Very sure it was good lighting.
It lingered there after sunset, same shape, just not
all hot and "explosive" looking..
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 01:16 PM by quadricle
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The only thing about this story is that it doesn't mention any "boom" or "blast" wich is usually realted to some meteor activity (is that
true?),
I would tend to agree that it could be a contrail.....
but why isn't the other area of the sky affected?
also here's another pic of the anomoly from another bystander...
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 01:18 PM by muppet
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Do you have any more links to stories on this?
I''d expect the smoke/debris to linger a bit in the air before it dispersed. Smoke from an exploding asteroid would behave in a similar way to
contrails in that respect, but this is SOOOO not a reflection from a contrail!!
why would a contrail just stop like that? where's the plane? Look at the thickness of the trail, it's way too big, or too close, and contrails
don't form at that low altitude..
you can actually see some of the sun's reflection in the upper part of the trail, where it is above cloud level. that's what the sun's reflections
look like. They don't produce fireball effects like that.
It's either
a) a meteor, or some other falling space junk/old satellite or something or,
b) a digital fake.
If it's a fake, it's a very VERY good one by a talented artist. Given the back-story though from the BBC I'm more inclined to believe it's real,
and therefore (a) above.
I can't believe NASA would come out and say it's a contrail, but.. it seems they have. weird!!
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 01:29 PM by quadricle
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additional links:
www.msnbc.com...
www.unknowncountry.com...
also, was able to find this pic of another meteor trail taken in 2000 in Canada (for comparison?):
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taken from here: www.space.com...
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 01:35 PM by HowardRoark
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It is a contrail lit up by the setting sun.
Look at it this way: Why just one picture? If this was a mass of flaming plasma, then you would expect that the shape of the “fireball” to change
and move as it dissipated.
Why just one picture? Where are the follow up shots of the “fireball?”
It is a contrail. The lighting lasted long enough for the picture to be taken.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 01:50 PM by muppet
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those Yukon images look more similar to these South Wales ones..
The second image confirms IMHO that it is some sort of fireball and not a contrail. I really don't know what to say. I can only imagine NASA was
embarrassed about some sort of space junk they dropped, but why not just call it a meteor instead?
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 01:58 PM by muppet
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Contrail can be illuminated by the sun, sure.. but they don't glow fiery hot like that! It's a short exposure, since there's no camera blur on the
foreground objects, and cloud matter doesn't reflect as "hot" in less it is at a very flat angle to the sun, and very thick.. (imagine the golden
lining you get with the clouds near the sun in a regular sunset.. like
this
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 02:00 PM by William One Sac
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This topic was discussed at length here last year...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 02:11 PM by muppet
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I've had a dig around for a few contrail at sunset shots to compare..
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The genuine contrails don't just reflect brightly for a tiny portion of their length like that. they tend to be illuminated along their length.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 02:14 PM by quadricle
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sorry Mod
I did several ATS searches on this but couldn't find anything.....
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 02:25 PM by muppet
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Ditto the sorry mod
It's still not a contrail though.
Notice how the sun illuminates the TOP of the trail, and not the bottom. Since the sun is setting/already set in this picture, it means the trail is
pointing DOWN, not horizontal as an aircraft contrail would. Do a search for "contrail sunset". Lots of photos, but none like this.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 02:37 PM by Janus
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I dont think its a contrail either, it starts too abruptly prob the beginning of the smoke or debris trail may be the point the meteor ( im convinced
its a meteor ) entered the atmosphere.
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reply posted on 14-6-2004 @ 02:59 PM by muppet
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I'm normally pretty skeptical about stuff like this, and NASA of all groups I though would be pretty honest....still this gets me wondering.
Does anyone remember why the alternative concorde/contrail theory was proposed at the time, rather then putting it down to a meteor/fireball, which
was most people's, including NASA's, first impression?
COULD this have been something crashing and burning up that they didn't want to tell anyone about? Some sort of aircraft? I really don't
know....other than it ain't no contrail!!
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