OMG, Contrails and airplanes in advertisements!
Some of you need to get over your suspicious of aircraft. Aviation is not some devil science, cooked up in sinister labs, and flying airplanes is not
voodoo either.
Just because some of you equate aviation with evil for some reason, and live in some delusion where apparentely everything things airplanes, aviation
and contrails are sinister and that we need advertisements to tell us otherwise.
The use of subliminals for the normalisation of chemtrails(Pictures)., page 3
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reply posted on 9-5-2011 @ 02:51 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by katndew
There are NO SUCH THING as "chem"-trails.
This is a nonsense idea.....stop buying into the lunacy.....THINK and get logical, before you fall down deeper into the well of ignorance....
There are NO SUCH THING as "chem"-trails.
This is a nonsense idea.....stop buying into the lunacy.....THINK and get logical, before you fall down deeper into the well of ignorance....
reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 07:27 PM by IntegratedInstigator
reply to post by weedwhacker
Someone may have used the term 'subliminal' inadvertently, but what the OP is talking about is normalization, not subliminal messages. I see where you both are coming from, no weedwhacker, they are not subliminal messages. The point OP and others is trying to get across is that the more we see pictures of this in our every day lives, in our advertising, on our cereal boxes, in kids movies, etc... the more we become accustomed to seeing them, and the more we view them as 'normal'.
I wont speak about the chemtrail issue, I dont have enough information to make a solid case. My thoughts would likely be misguided opinions anyways. I just wanted to jump in regarding the normalization versus subliminal messaging issue that keeps seeming to trip people up in this thread.
Someone may have used the term 'subliminal' inadvertently, but what the OP is talking about is normalization, not subliminal messages. I see where you both are coming from, no weedwhacker, they are not subliminal messages. The point OP and others is trying to get across is that the more we see pictures of this in our every day lives, in our advertising, on our cereal boxes, in kids movies, etc... the more we become accustomed to seeing them, and the more we view them as 'normal'.
I wont speak about the chemtrail issue, I dont have enough information to make a solid case. My thoughts would likely be misguided opinions anyways. I just wanted to jump in regarding the normalization versus subliminal messaging issue that keeps seeming to trip people up in this thread.
reply posted on 11-5-2011 @ 03:27 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by RestingInPieces
Please provide a link to your chemtrail propulsion engines, because a few members that work on these would be interested in this new style engine.
I can't keep this from coming out....
I am pretty sure that there is no such thing as a chemtrail propulsion engine,because how do they get passed EPA and their regulations? In fact here is a link to the EPA.
www.epa.gov...
Here is a pdf that you should also read.CPT you can't be serious are you?
www.epa.gov...
It will probably take you a little while longer to REALIZE this, but what I eventually stumbled upon is that TPTB have actually actualized a plan that has replaced all current forms of JEP (Jet Engine Propulsion) with CTP Engines! Yes, that's Chem-Trail Propulsion engines!
Please provide a link to your chemtrail propulsion engines, because a few members that work on these would be interested in this new style engine.
I can't keep this from coming out....
I am pretty sure that there is no such thing as a chemtrail propulsion engine,because how do they get passed EPA and their regulations? In fact here is a link to the EPA.
www.epa.gov...
Here is a pdf that you should also read.CPT you can't be serious are you?
www.epa.gov...
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reply posted on 11-5-2011 @ 04:03 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Human_Alien
Do your chemtrails look like this?
or this...
Because if they did you were seeing contrails. Here is some more pics of contrails.
flickrhivemind.net...
Do your chemtrails look like this?
or this...
Because if they did you were seeing contrails. Here is some more pics of contrails.
flickrhivemind.net...
reply posted on 11-5-2011 @ 11:25 PM by katndew
reply to post by tsurfer2000h
OK. Educate me then. Why do some contrails disappear right away and others stay in the air like your pictures for days. Why do the skies not appear like this everyday then since the airplanes fly everyday? I'm not buying it. Have you guys even looked up the information on chemtrails or do you just debunk without evidence?
OK. Educate me then. Why do some contrails disappear right away and others stay in the air like your pictures for days. Why do the skies not appear like this everyday then since the airplanes fly everyday? I'm not buying it. Have you guys even looked up the information on chemtrails or do you just debunk without evidence?
reply posted on 12-5-2011 @ 10:49 AM by firepilot
Originally posted by katndew
reply to post by tsurfer2000h
OK. Educate me then. Why do some contrails disappear right away and others stay in the air like your pictures for days. Why do the skies not appear like this everyday then since the airplanes fly everyday? I'm not buying it. Have you guys even looked up the information on chemtrails or do you just debunk without evidence?
With no evidence? What planet have you been on, we have been bringing evidence to bear ever since this silly hoax started. Its the chemtrailers who have no evidence, and just exhort people to look up, and to ignore science.
It is really that mysterious to think why some trails can linger and some do not? Do you honestly think that every plane flies in the exact same temperatures and humidity, with the exact same kinds of engines and at the same altitudes?
Do you expect that every natural cloud should be the exact same and that the weather should be the same every day? There are charts that can be used to determine persistence, and it deals with temperature and relative humidity. The colder it is and the higher the relative humidity is, the more likely it is to persist.
This is not voodoo, its just logic and science. There is no rule that contrails can not persist, thats just something made up by chemtrail promoters.
reply posted on 12-5-2011 @ 11:35 PM by katndew
reply to post by firepilot
I don't claim to be anywhere close to an expert but I presume you are not either. I just read info. like you do and try to keep an open mind either way. But my open mind leans more this way.....Here's some EVIDENCE for chemtrails. Even comes in a book form and I will enclose partial quote from the following website link....Now can't we all just get along?.....
www.lightwatcher.com...
"This massive research study is entitled: Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base - Panel on Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming, sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. The results were presented in 1992 and published in book form in 2000 by the National Academy Press. This 994 page study is the textbook on greenhouse gasses, global warming, policy decisions and mitigation's (corrective measures). Included within is the hard science many chemtrails researchers have been searching for: the scientists, agencies, institutions and corporations involved, cost factors, chemical formula, mathematical modeling, delivery methods, policies, recruiting of foreign governments, acquisition of materials, and the manufacturing of aerosol compounds, ect.
This entire volume can presently be read online at: books.nap.edu... Keep in mind that this study is only the tip of the iceberg. Literally hundreds of papers on related topics have been published in scientific journals.
The full involvement of foremost government agencies, research firms, universities and private corporations are detailed in this global 'geoengineering' study. Keep in mind that this was approved by and funded by Congress. This documentation proves that they have lied repeatedly about their involvement and the existence of chemtrail spraying programs.
It also appears that we 'Chemtrail' investigators have been chasing our tails, being intentionally discredited, maligned, and fed disinformation to keep the actual truth just below the levels of media perception. The real story has been taking place in broad daylight, safely concealed under the scientific umbrella of 'Geoengineering and intentional climate change. Chemtrails are just one of the 'mitigations' proposed to Geoengineering our planet. Once we began sifting through the numerous studies, experiments and papers written on intentional climate change, we found a wealth of supporting evidence of well funded global atmospheric modification programs. One such paper is Geoengineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project www.metatronics.net... (Jay Michaelson, published in the Stanford Environmental Law Journal, January, 1998)"
I don't claim to be anywhere close to an expert but I presume you are not either. I just read info. like you do and try to keep an open mind either way. But my open mind leans more this way.....Here's some EVIDENCE for chemtrails. Even comes in a book form and I will enclose partial quote from the following website link....Now can't we all just get along?.....
www.lightwatcher.com...
"This massive research study is entitled: Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base - Panel on Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming, sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. The results were presented in 1992 and published in book form in 2000 by the National Academy Press. This 994 page study is the textbook on greenhouse gasses, global warming, policy decisions and mitigation's (corrective measures). Included within is the hard science many chemtrails researchers have been searching for: the scientists, agencies, institutions and corporations involved, cost factors, chemical formula, mathematical modeling, delivery methods, policies, recruiting of foreign governments, acquisition of materials, and the manufacturing of aerosol compounds, ect.
This entire volume can presently be read online at: books.nap.edu... Keep in mind that this study is only the tip of the iceberg. Literally hundreds of papers on related topics have been published in scientific journals.
The full involvement of foremost government agencies, research firms, universities and private corporations are detailed in this global 'geoengineering' study. Keep in mind that this was approved by and funded by Congress. This documentation proves that they have lied repeatedly about their involvement and the existence of chemtrail spraying programs.
It also appears that we 'Chemtrail' investigators have been chasing our tails, being intentionally discredited, maligned, and fed disinformation to keep the actual truth just below the levels of media perception. The real story has been taking place in broad daylight, safely concealed under the scientific umbrella of 'Geoengineering and intentional climate change. Chemtrails are just one of the 'mitigations' proposed to Geoengineering our planet. Once we began sifting through the numerous studies, experiments and papers written on intentional climate change, we found a wealth of supporting evidence of well funded global atmospheric modification programs. One such paper is Geoengineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project www.metatronics.net... (Jay Michaelson, published in the Stanford Environmental Law Journal, January, 1998)"
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reply posted on 12-5-2011 @ 11:56 PM by katndew
reply to post by firepilot
I thought we were going to start playing nice. Ok, let the games begin........
All matter in the earth's crust is based on elements (in various chemical combinations).
There are 92 elements that occur naturally in the earth's crust (and a few very short-lived others that have been produced in laboratories).
These can be arranged by atomic number and by number of electron shells into something called the periodic table, which conveniently organizes all these elements by their behavior into several groups.
You will be relieved to know that only about eight of these 92 elements are at all common in the rocks of the earth's crust (had you worried, didn't I?):
i. Oxygen (O), with two shells and an atomic number of 8, is
far and away the most common element in the earth's crust,
making up about 47 percent of it by weight. It hangs out
the most with silicon, to form silica and the silicate
rocks that dominate the mantle and crust.
ii. Silicon (Si), with three shells and an atomic number of 14,
is the second most common element, making up about 28
percent of the earth's crust by weight. It hangs out with
oxygen to form silica (SiO2, which accounts for
just under 75 percent of the earth's crust!
iii. Aluminum (Al) is a light metal with three shells and an
atomic weight of 13 (pretty light). It makes up about 8
percent of the earth's crust, often as a part of silicate
minerals in the upper continental crust (e.g., feldspars,
remember "felsic" rock?).
iv. Sodium (Na) is another relatively light metal, with three
shells and an atomic number of eleven. It makes up not
quite three percent of the earth's crust and is often found
in silicate rocks (notably the plagioclase version of
feldspar, a light mineral in the upper continental crust).
It can also create an ionic bond with chlorine to form
table salt (or "halite"), and there is beaucoup of
it in the oceans (and, heck, your blood, your own portable
ocean).
v. Calcium (Ca), with four electron shells and an atomic
number of 20, makes up just under four percent of the
earth's crust. It often hangs out in silicate minerals,
such as plagioclase feldspar, and it often associates with
carbon and oxygen to form calcium carbonate (major
component of limestone and marble).
vi. Potassium (K) is another light metal with four shells and
an atomic number of 19. It makes up less than three
percent of the earth's crust and, like aluminum, it hangs
out in feldspar (but in a different form called
"orthoclase"). So, it is more common in the upper
continental crust.
vii. Iron (Fe) is a relatively heavier metal, with four electron
orbital shells and an atomic weight of 26. It makes up
about five percent of the earth's crust (becoming more
common with depth). As we saw earlier, it completely
dominates the earth's core (with nickel). It is also a
very common component of the mantle rocks and the oceanic
crust and the lower continental crust. There, it is
incorporated (often with magnesium) in the silicate
"ferromagnesian" minerals (such as olivine, pyroxene,
hornblende, and biotite).
viii. Magnesium (Mg) is a fairly light metal, with three shells
and an atomic number of 12. It only makes up about two
percent of the earth's crust, and it hangs out with iron a
lot, though, and is found in the "ferromagnesium" silicate
minerals.
ix. The remaining 84 naturally-occurring elements, then, only
make up 1.4 percent of the crust.
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I thought we were going to start playing nice. Ok, let the games begin........
All matter in the earth's crust is based on elements (in various chemical combinations).
There are 92 elements that occur naturally in the earth's crust (and a few very short-lived others that have been produced in laboratories).
These can be arranged by atomic number and by number of electron shells into something called the periodic table, which conveniently organizes all these elements by their behavior into several groups.
You will be relieved to know that only about eight of these 92 elements are at all common in the rocks of the earth's crust (had you worried, didn't I?):
i. Oxygen (O), with two shells and an atomic number of 8, is
far and away the most common element in the earth's crust,
making up about 47 percent of it by weight. It hangs out
the most with silicon, to form silica and the silicate
rocks that dominate the mantle and crust.
ii. Silicon (Si), with three shells and an atomic number of 14,
is the second most common element, making up about 28
percent of the earth's crust by weight. It hangs out with
oxygen to form silica (SiO2, which accounts for
just under 75 percent of the earth's crust!
iii. Aluminum (Al) is a light metal with three shells and an
atomic weight of 13 (pretty light). It makes up about 8
percent of the earth's crust, often as a part of silicate
minerals in the upper continental crust (e.g., feldspars,
remember "felsic" rock?).
iv. Sodium (Na) is another relatively light metal, with three
shells and an atomic number of eleven. It makes up not
quite three percent of the earth's crust and is often found
in silicate rocks (notably the plagioclase version of
feldspar, a light mineral in the upper continental crust).
It can also create an ionic bond with chlorine to form
table salt (or "halite"), and there is beaucoup of
it in the oceans (and, heck, your blood, your own portable
ocean).
v. Calcium (Ca), with four electron shells and an atomic
number of 20, makes up just under four percent of the
earth's crust. It often hangs out in silicate minerals,
such as plagioclase feldspar, and it often associates with
carbon and oxygen to form calcium carbonate (major
component of limestone and marble).
vi. Potassium (K) is another light metal with four shells and
an atomic number of 19. It makes up less than three
percent of the earth's crust and, like aluminum, it hangs
out in feldspar (but in a different form called
"orthoclase"). So, it is more common in the upper
continental crust.
vii. Iron (Fe) is a relatively heavier metal, with four electron
orbital shells and an atomic weight of 26. It makes up
about five percent of the earth's crust (becoming more
common with depth). As we saw earlier, it completely
dominates the earth's core (with nickel). It is also a
very common component of the mantle rocks and the oceanic
crust and the lower continental crust. There, it is
incorporated (often with magnesium) in the silicate
"ferromagnesian" minerals (such as olivine, pyroxene,
hornblende, and biotite).
viii. Magnesium (Mg) is a fairly light metal, with three shells
and an atomic number of 12. It only makes up about two
percent of the earth's crust, and it hangs out with iron a
lot, though, and is found in the "ferromagnesium" silicate
minerals.
ix. The remaining 84 naturally-occurring elements, then, only
make up 1.4 percent of the crust.
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