The use of subliminals for the normalisation of chemtrails(Pictures).

I'd just like to present a few picture's people have collected. Are these normal or are they put there on purpose? The more you see something the more you think it's normal no ?

After watching the skies for an amount of time i've come to the conclusion that chemtrail's/geo engineering is hapening.

But some people say that these are normal, i questioned myself as to why. Here is my reason i believe people dont question them.

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From an O2 Tv advert

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Yoghurt - Miller time

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Over the hedge kids film

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Used on a yahoo news article

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From a paper

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Metro Uk paper

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Matchbox kids toys

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Same

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Cartoon from paper

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Big bro uk

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Nasa

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Metro uk paper

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Why did i come to that conclusion you may ask, it's after watching some derren brown stuff. Here is a short video to kind of explain my reasoning.

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 28-6-2010 by slylee]

Bah not even one post, i think i would of prefered the "your seeing stuff posts" Guess there's nothing to see here people....

Originally posted by slylee
Bah not even one post, i think i would of prefered the "your seeing stuff posts" Guess there's nothing to see here people....

Star and a Flag and a reply from me.


I've been keeping my eye on chemtrails for some time now.

they usually occur in the morning, well below 30000 ft where "contrails" occur, are frequently followed by cloudcover and are often times directed at the same direction as the sun in the sky.

they are real and tptb are not talking about them.

tamale

Here's some more:

LINK

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I'm still up in the air concerning chem/con trails. On Tuesday there will be tons of air traffic and the accompanying chemcon trails. Wed. hardly any traffic and few sporadic chemcon trails. And yes they do seem to have become a meme.

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Thanks, glad to see more people notice. If you click the source on the second picture, take a read of the article and comments at the bottom. Very interesting IMO.

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To the OP (and to Tamale):

If you click the source on the second picture, take a read of the article and comments at the bottom. Very interesting IMO.

What do you find so "interesting" in that linked article, near the bottom? The "20,000 square miles" figure?

The article explains quite well HOW and WHY normal contrails will form, and why (under proper atmospheric conditions) they will spread, and become enhanced, by NATURAL processes....just as the atmosphere has been doing for (likely) hundreds of millions of years.

For Tamale, in particular:

You say you see contrails "below 30,000 feet"??

Please explain exactly how you determined their altitude.
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Oh, and to add: NO, they are not some form of "subliminals". That IS a new twist, though....haven't heard it yet, except here.

Contrails are such a ubiquitous occurence, they are used in all sorts of ways, especially if advertising/promoting or whatever (even the cartoon) has something to do with flying or aviation.

AT MY airline we had a monthly packet of refresher training materials that we had to complete (read, take the tests, etc) in order to remain qualified (that was only PART of remaining qualified, every six months)...for decades the test/refresher/newsletter was titled "Contrails". This harkened back to one of the Airline's old iconic logo and paint scheme design...a stylized CONTRAIL image. This dated back to the 1960s!

I have over three decades' flying experience, and I know that they are contrails...and there are NO "chemtrails", not in the sense that this hysteria that has grown up makes them to be....

Hint: The "20,000 square miles" from the article should give you a bit of a clue...as to the impossiblity, and unfeasiblity of such a "project".

Been trying to find a video I saw of Great Britain and Europe air traffic...there is a LOT, and England (for those who complain about England getting so much cloud cover) is overflown a LOT too...

Here's one of the Lower 48 States, to get an idea:



Found a (not very good) one for Europe and England and Ireland:







[edit on 28 June 2010 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by weedwhacker

To the OP (and to Tamale):

If you click the source on the second picture, take a read of the article and comments at the bottom. Very interesting IMO.

For Tamale, in particular:

You say you see contrails "below 30,000 feet"??

Please explain exactly how you determined their altitude.
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First of all, I didn't determine their altitude, I determined what was NOT their altitude and, I did it with my eyes weedwhacker, I can tell the difference with my eyes.

Like most any idiot who has eyes, I don't need triangulation software to know that something I can see clearly and with distinct definition is not 6 miles away from me.



[edit on 28 June 2010 by weedwhacker]

To me, the chemtrail/geo-engineering (look it up) project is one of the greatest crimes ever committed upon this planet.
After almost 7 years of watching, reading, listening and testing counter measures, I have no doubt whatsoever that these lunatics are spraying us all closer to death.
Of course there will always be those who join these forums that attempt to ridicule the messengers, but the game is up. People KNOW! Only those too old and stubborn to face the fact that they have been deceived and taken for fools their entire lives, will continue to HAARP on about how 'it's only con-trails'.
There is hope. There is a system that they use to hold the clouds together and that system we can break.
More later.

Peas be with you.

x

Is it just pure disinfo as to why they are slipping the images into everything? Or is it because the more you see something the more you think its normal ?
When there going as far as this must be sinister right ?

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What about these ones?

contrailscience.com...

1967

1944

They've been doing it since the 40's!!!!



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You didn't really answer...you dodged:

First of all, I didn't determine their altitude, I determined what was NOT their altitude and, I did it with my eyes weedwhacker, I can tell the difference with my eyes.

WHAT altitude were they at? (Not, what altitude they "weren't" at! See the difference?)

Now, you claim you could easily discern what you were seeing, so to you that "proves" they weren't "6 miles away".

OK...then describe what you saw, what type of airplanes, their altitude, and IF there were trails behind them.

(Note that contrails CAN form as low as ~25,000 feet too).

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Yellow Teapot

To me, the chemtrail/geo-engineering (look it up) project is one of the greatest crimes ever committed upon this planet.
After almost 7 years of watching, reading, listening and testing counter measures, I have no doubt whatsoever that these lunatics are spraying us all closer to death.

Seven years! This entire "chemtrail" nonsense has been going on for a long time, hasn't it? Funny how people still fall for it...

You are so convinced of this "spraying" campaign...BUT, have you ever stopped to think, sat down and down some calculations??

In one article referenced in the OP, the figure "20,000 square miles" is mentioned to describe the extent to which cirriform type clouds will spread out over the sky. Not surprising, when you consider HOW FAR YOU CAN SEE, when you look up, and then calculate the total area, in square unites (miles or kms, your choice) overhead.

THEN...well, we'll just use the "20,000" square miles. Stop, think and do the maths....HOW MUCH material would be needed? To spread out to that size??

HOW is that much material to be carried? What type, and how many airplanes? What other methods of lofting can be used? Do you SEE any other methods being employed??

Face it --- you see CONTRAILS, which consist mostly of ice crystals, derived from the existing water vapor that is present in our atmosphere.

The airplanes that make the contrails are normal, regular passenger and cargo (FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc) flights.

THAT is it. Period. Sorry, this seems like an all-encompassing hobby for you, but it's a fool's errand......

OWL CITY....isn't that cute?

Chemtrails in the Disney/Pixar movie 'Cars' 2006



Microsoft Windows 98 Logo




other Microsoft Chemtrails
WINDOWS CHEMTRAILS SUBLIMINALS



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I am not getting the point of that post?

You guys might want to look up the actual definiton of "subliminal", perhaps....because a BIG, very OBVIOUS photo of something, or included in the background of something else (things like contrails, which are ubiquitous) is not meeting the standards of being "subliminal".

Subliminal stimuli, (literally "below threshold"), contrary to supraliminal stimuli or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's absolute threshold for conscious perception. Visual stimuli may be quickly flashed before an individual may process them, or flashed and then masked, thereby interrupting the processing.

en.wikipedia.org...

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OK...I see you've added to, and enhanced youroriginal post. Very well....

YOU do know the difference, between 'supraluminal' and 'sub-' (it's even in your screename!)

HOWEVER...the height of paranoid is very prominently displayed in that YouTube video selection...it is beyond silly. Sorry. Not buying it.

People, advertisers, artists, urban planners...they put clouds into images because they are more interesting than a blank, plain blue sky!!!

It is really that simple. :shk:





[edit on 29 June 2010 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by Chadwickus
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What about these ones?

contrailscience.com...

1967

1944

They've been doing it since the 40's!!!!

[edit on 29/6/10 by Chadwickus]

Well those trails dont look like the ones I see, those look like contrails, the ones I see are more like the second picture of the OPs post...

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...the ones I see are more like the second picture of the OPs post...

??

The second picture in the OP's post are ALSO contrails. They happen to be taken from a point on the ground where air traffic is passing overhead on many different headings, as the air traffic travels between various widely separated departure and destination points!

Look at a map of the United States, or Europe....look at airline schedules, and the city pairs that are served. You will see AMPLE spots where paths cross, and airplanes flying those routes, when they make contrails, will leave them in a criss-cross looking manner.

Chad's image from 1967 happens to show an area where most flights were roughly parallel...that is the only difference. Could be anywhere, but mostly on one of the Coasts (East Coast US especially, NorthEast sector) where there is so much traffic over the North Atlantic routes...primarily west-to-east, and vice versa, of course. Even in 1967, VERY busy over those routes....today, more so....
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Edit: Here's a link to an example North Atlantic Plotting Chart (most airlines use Jeppesen products, and they are seriously copyrighted...you have to pay for the right to post them!)



Charts like this are used for navigation reference, and some simplified versions (the ones for actual "plotting") are used in flight, and written on, as we track the over-water and out of radar portions of the flight, to verify navigational systems performance and accuracy. (These finished materials are KEPT by the airline for a minimum of six months, in case any question arises later...like, they sit as "smoking gun" evidence if a crew screws something up!).

Anyway, you may need help interpreting...but you can see all the points on the coast, both in North America, and in England/Europe where flights' routings are "anchored", for the crossing over the Atlantic. Similar routes head down to South America, too...all over the World, there are established waypoints like this, in the air, to navigate by.

The black triangles, those are the "intersections"/waypoints. "Intersections" are denoted by the five-letter 'names'. Other waypoints, sometimes, by their Latitude/Longitude
(such as, "N49 W30" for cardinal coordinates in degrees...occasionally minutes will be used, if not on a whole degree point).







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[edit on 11-7-2010 by slylee]

Has anyone seen the film "The Crazies" ? Just before it reveal's the title it has 2 planes chem trailing, if anyone could screen cap it that would be very grateful.

Wow, just wow. This is just silly beyond belief. Why does anyone need to "normalize" people to your trails, since 99.99 percent of the people think they are normal anyways. Its just the Insane Cloud Posse that is scared of airplanes, clouds, helicopters, and contrails, who thinks contrails are not normal. Just another delusion of grandeur, to think the government is personally targeting you.

I guess we have to add anyone in the media, movies, or print that puts contrails in an ad or movie, well they must be part of the chemtrail conspriracy too! I wonder how many millions of people must be in on it by now.

some chemmies actually think that "TPTB" have gone back and added trails to old movies, books and magazines too. They utterly refuse to believe that contrails actually existed back then, even persistent ones too.

Oh well, I guess we have at at least add Sony, Disney, film makers, and movie studios to the chemtrail conspiracy. Apparently Hollywood is an integral part of chemtrails, I bet that is news to them. Do we also add the Screen Actors Guild to the list of those involved?