When did i cry out for vengance, evoking the names of the dead already?
I spoke about acting defensivly and only in the nations most grave interests.
Im certain "who's the biggest bully" is debatable, and there is no doubght we could be, gobbling up what ever we had the will to take....but we
live in the real world...and weak kneed people that will barely stand up for themselves or the chance to clean up a known and recognized wrong on the
planet (saddam), will never allow the USA to become too big a bully.
They'll whine down our will to fight.....(or practically defend ourselves)
Fine, the USA is the worlds biggest bully.....Well just what/how do you deal with the top preadator in the food chain? When it comes right down to
it, i EXPECT that if the planet was dying, that theyd do everything to make sure Americans survived the longest. Thats their jobs. Regardless of how
other nations feel about it....indeed there might be little that can be done to stop the USA short of a serious conflict...which none of the major
world players really is interested in....this whole terror thing aside, theres a whole lot of $$$ to be made out there....and well almost the whole
world except some lawless radicals is agreeing to get along so far on this so...
dont step too close to the train as it passes.
I never utilized with us/them, i said WE needed to stand up for ourselves. I didnt imply wanting or needing anyone elses help or permission.
Like there arent threads full of links here on ATS already with this but here,
So if you deal in terrorism with whatever fring groups name is, your guilty...If your in bed with one, why not others?
"they never secured the borders and now by some accounts there are almost 100,000 armed foreigners in Iraq"
Yeah thats part of us trapping by choosing when/where...we got to pick where all these wackos would congregate..better there than other places...by
consentrating the enemy to where our forces can monitor and generally dominate them, we'll be able to wipe out more of them quicker than if we had to
hop from place to place.....if the enemy cant resist their jihadist sirens call to where their opponent kills them at over 10-1 ratio....then you get
an idea of the mentality of the people that want to KILL THE WEST.
"Terrorism attacks are up 40% in the world. " No link backing up that "fact"
lets take it as true however....where are most of these attacks occuring? Ill bet a good many of them are occuring where we chose to put our
troops....hmmm instead of other places....yes other places have been targets but what % fo these strikes happened where one might "expect" this
thing to be occuring...say palestine? stats can be manipulated by more than the state....terrorists dont care about your statistics, they care about
blowing more and more stuff up...yes get it, the # you gave shows that....theyve been accelerating this for 25 yrs, where have you been?
Good god man, the top 10 cities in America will probably have a total # of people murdered way in excess of the # of troops we've lost
here is a link for murder #'s from 2002
These people go to the meat grinder every year and noone seems to give a care, but god forbid we have to use millitary force and lose less people to
actually do something to ensure our quality of life.
When the murder rate in the USA drops below the rate of attrition for our forign policy, then ill consider if our forign policy needs a review.
"Let me make reference: Israel has been using that same policy for the past 56 years and they are still killing each other.
Israel has been under tremendous constraints by the USA to NOT go off on its neighbors....We flat out told them they werent getting into the gulf
war...and knuckled them to comply against their wishes..
The USA is under no such constraints.
If we let israel do whatever it wanted to fix its security problems, there would be more conflict not less....israel is not a straw man, its a HUGE
piece of that regions situation AT ALL TIMES....duh?
You offer your assesment of a nations policy yet set no criteria for making this judgment.
If you think Bush is the only "player" on the global stage then you are limited in your scope of knowledge of world affairs....
All saddam had to do to stay in power was comply fully with the UN inspection programs, and obey the no fly zone, neither of which he could do....too
bad for him enforcement occured.
You, speaking about the President.
"outrageous and impeachable behaviors?"
lets not diverge this thread with bush bashing...enough to say if there was anything impeachable, where is the special council? why arent the kerry
people stringing up GWB in the media...WHY? BECAUSE THEY CANT SAY THOSE THINGS AS TRUTH on TV or they would have done so already.
Where is this so called impeachment, it hasnt even thought about getting off the ground.
Outrageous behaivior? certantly unorthodox...but these are both subjective.
Im advocating Americans marching in the streets, chanting "death to your people" and burning their flags..then showing this for 25 yrs to those
people and see how they think we feel about them after we terrorize them.
How do you think im supposed to feel pal, like the USA and the Taliban/al queda/iran/ are going to be good buddies? Theyve shown their intent and
will to exercise that intent....dont mind us if we dont sit and wait for you to do this again...how many times do we do nothing before we try
Im advocating peace thru strength.