The Demise of Ufology

I really do not see a problem here. Why should we worry about the demise of Ufology?

In fact the very dicipline called Ufology is, in my view , the source of the problem. It is the reason why there is so much bickering and so much misunderstanding. It has made UFOs a Belief System. Once you have a Belief System in place you attract the disbelievers as much as the supporters.

If people lose interest in UFOs so be it. Why try to round them up . Let the people have their own experience. If they see something , I am sure they will want to investigate by whatever means. There is no necessity for a 'ufologist' to be around to help.

Just to clarify; the blog is not an attack upon a belief in UFO's or a statement about how popular/unpopular the UFO theory is today.

It is a critique of ufology which is the collective efforts of those who study reports and associated evidence of unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

I kind of have to agree with the inconsequence of ufology dying away. After all, the only thing it's really done over the past 60 years is sort of, kind of get people to understand that there are weird things flying around in the sky, and not everyone who sees them are liars, crazy, or stupid. That's not much.

Has ufology helped find out where these things are from? NO.
Has ufology discovered what these things even are? NO.
Has ufology uncovered who is responsible for UFOs? NO.
Has ufology developed any good scientific method for testing theories about UFOs? NO.

Of course it's difficult to come up with those answers and protocols if you're constantly butting heads with the military and the need for national security. But that's part of the job. If the military can't be dealt with, then maybe ufology just isn't worthwhile or effective. It happens.

So if it went away, and was left to either re-organize itself, or come into the hands of some reasonably qualified individuals, maybe that's a good thing.

I would say that little people here can actually match up with what I asked for a team in my own earlier response. even I would not fit in most of those roles (primairily because I have just too little time)

UFOlogy is the studdy of UFOs, anything else added to that is strictly for the whack jobs when they are off their medication.

A week ago I would have posted to this thread that the subject, like everything else, waxes and wanes, and that at the moment, and only for the moment, it is waning. But today I agree with the OP.

No doubt there will always be people who have a personal interest in it, and we'll continue to see the same videos that have been posted time and time again, with an ongoing and non-ending supply of abductee's and contactees personal accounts, without any supportive evidence.

But as far as having any respect or credibility as a serious field of study, for the moment at least, it's over, or at least well on it's way to being over.

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
But as far as having any respect or credibility as a serious field of study, for the moment at least, it's over, or at least well on it's way to being over.

No hard evidence = no real credibility. Ufology has never been a serious field of study, not to the majority of scientists or the general public.

In a sense, Ufology cannot be said to be "on the demise" because it has yet to be born as a science. That will only happen when the first piece of tangible evidence is discovered/made public and the testable, scientific process can begin.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
But as far as having any respect or credibility as a serious field of study, for the moment at least, it's over, or at least well on it's way to being over.

No hard evidence = no real credibility. Ufology has never been a serious field of study, not to the majority of scientists or the general public.

In a sense, Ufology cannot be said to be "on the demise" because it has yet to be born as a science. That will only happen when the first piece of tangible evidence is discovered/made public and the testable, scientific process can begin.

Ufology isn't a science, it's a cover up.

Seems like a lot of people here at ATS have lost the "Conspiracy Bug".

You have to realise that all of us, are being lied to by a small group of ex-military SCI top secret dudes.

I just can't understand WHY anyone who follows the ET/UFO issue, cant get the REAL STORY of the cover up ????

See my signature below.............

reply to post by FOXMULDER147

Ufology has never been a serious field of study, not to the majority of scientists or the general public.

...I thought about that right after I posted it.

reply to post by LiveForever8

So how does one obtain (and sustain) credibility in such an easily infiltrated arena?

If you are worried about your credibility then you are probably in the wrong field.

The "easy infiltration" can work for and against ufology. However, you can't always worry about "what others are doing" because the simple fact is you can't do much about it.

I think the best thing to do is worry about your own take on the UFO/UFO related phenomena. UFOs have been linked to:

*Quantum mechanics
*Astrophysics
*Theology
*Alien Abductions
*Near Death Exp
*Cattle Mutiliations
*Secret Gov't research programs
*Aerodynamics
*Crop Circles
....the list goes on.

Yes you can spend a few days doing google searches and proclaim yourself a UFO expert, but that doesn't make you one. I suggest reading more! If you have read 10 UFO/UFO related books then expand your knowledge by reading 50. If you have read 100 books then shoot for 200.

Look at J. Allen Hynek for example. That guy not only received a PhD in astrophysics but he spent decades studying (more like pioneering) ufology. He still had saucers going through his brain when he died in the 1986.

The worst thing any of us can do is give up on ufology. This is not what Hynek, Hill, Ruppelt, and all the pioneering ufologists would have wanted!

Star & Flag the threads where people show they have done some minimal amount of research. Where people have made logical hypotheses and linked to supporting material.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
But as far as having any respect or credibility as a serious field of study, for the moment at least, it's over, or at least well on it's way to being over.

In a sense, Ufology cannot be said to be "on the demise" because it has yet to be born as a science. That will only happen when the first piece of tangible evidence is discovered/made public and the testable, scientific process can begin.

There is a contradiction in what you say. If there is tangible evidence and scientific testing is carried out, then it is no longer UFOlogy. Why ? Because the craft has either been identified as being home-made(military) or as having been created by beings who are not human. Another xxxxology now becomes necessary to deal with the study of aliens (Alientology ??? may be !!)

The whole UFOlogy thing reminds me of Sir James Frazer who wrote the 'Golden Bough', a book detailing magical practices around the world. He was a skeptic and maintained throughout his book that magic does not exist or work. His argument was that whenever magic works it is no longer magic but Science.

The point I am making is that , no matter how much evidence there is, there will always be skeptism and a call for a new science. (...to really understand what is going on )

I have had an interest in UFOs for a long time. I have gathered my evidence/footage and formulated my own theories. I have kept an open mind and welcomed new ideas. Still I will never call myself a UFOlogist. It just does not seem right to use such a term.











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Originally posted by Scramjet76
reply to post by LiveForever8

 

I think the best thing to do is worry about your own take on the UFO/UFO related phenomena. UFOs have been linked to:

*Quantum mechanics
*Astrophysics
*Theology
*Alien Abductions
*Near Death Exp
*Cattle Mutiliations
*Secret Gov't research programs
*Aerodynamics
*Crop Circles
....the list goes on.

I agree with you that UFOs touch on other areas. In particular quantum mechanics, the occult , religion and Psychology (at least for me) . However I would specialise in a few areas only as I believe that reading too widely can negate any understanding that you may acquire.

Originally posted by downunderET

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
But as far as having any respect or credibility as a serious field of study, for the moment at least, it's over, or at least well on it's way to being over.

No hard evidence = no real credibility. Ufology has never been a serious field of study, not to the majority of scientists or the general public.

In a sense, Ufology cannot be said to be "on the demise" because it has yet to be born as a science. That will only happen when the first piece of tangible evidence is discovered/made public and the testable, scientific process can begin.

Ufology isn't a science, it's a cover up.

Seems like a lot of people here at ATS have lost the "Conspiracy Bug".

You have to realise that all of us, are being lied to by a small group of ex-military SCI top secret dudes.

I just can't understand WHY anyone who follows the ET/UFO issue, cant get the REAL STORY of the cover up ????

See my signature below.............

I'm convinced that modern UFOlogy rests upon fabrications provided by Rick Doty and friends - the Aviary. Sadly this real conspiracy isn't very appealing to most conspiracy buffs as it doesn't involve the government.

Originally posted by cripmeister

I'm convinced that modern UFOlogy rests upon fabrications provided by Rick Doty and friends - the Aviary.

Gotta agree with you on that point crip!

Three Big Stories Immediately Come To Mind.

1. MJ 12 Documents
2. Project Serpo
3. The Caret Program

IRM