Revelation; The Seven Churches (have been warned-pt1)

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:16 AM
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there was warned for delusions and division.
the prophet that will come will repeat the pattern,
and the prophets that will stand up,
will repeat the pattern,
so the world can regret again after they suffered what they thought to be able to avoid by dividing
so they also can come home to the place of forgiveness
after they lost their ways.


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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:19 AM
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Nope wrong.



Acts 15:10-11
Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?
No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
you cannot understand duality,
if you do not priotise what is important for you...


When faced with a biblical conundrum, the usual tactic is to:

1)attack the questioner's intelligence

2)confuse the issue with imponderables



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds

there was warned for delusions and division.

Yes indeed, there was warning, both in the Old testament and in the New Testament, that false techers would come trying to draw people after other, false, gods. Like the Maitreya.
I'll attach references in a moment.

"If a prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder..and if he says "Let us go after other gods" which you have not known...then you shall not listen to that prophet or that dreamer of dreams"
Deuteronomy ch13 vv1-3

"Then if anyone says to you "Lo, here is the Christ" or "There he is!", do not believe it."
Matthew ch24 v23

Both these passages speak most directly to the claims of a Maitreya.

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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i dont tell you you are not saved.
i tell you we all have a cross,
and we choose how to carry that cross.
In preparation or not.
But love is for everyone, because god forgives all,
the question is,
do we forgive god as one ?



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:22 AM
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the bible speaks from a god that is one,
ignoring the priority makes you speak
another interpretation then the correct one.

sorry if i sound a bit short, im not,
its better to reply short to make points,
which will not be absorbed right now.

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:25 AM
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who is the lord jesus, before or after glorification ?
did the bible warn us ?
everyone except the manifestations of god,
are wrong (still in lies, but in levels of progress) until they become one and manifested.



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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds

who is the lord jesus, before or after glorification ?
did the bible warn us ?

Yes, the Bible did give us the answer to this question;

"Therefore God has highly exalted him and has bestowed on him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every name will bow, in heaven, and in earth, and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Philippians ch2 vv9-11



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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the bible is a codebook,
full of duality on first sight,
full of oneness on deeper level.

relgions ignore the first duality,
so cannot see its oneness.

all the holy books are made dual,
so people can fight over its meanings,
when its clear, see the goal first
before you understand the all,
because you cannot see gods face (All)
and live as divided.



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
the bible speaks from a god that is one,


This is what I question, since the bible quotes I provided speak of more than one through the plurality of Our image.


ignoring the priority makes you speak
another interpretation then the correct one.


And the correct one, according to your interpretation, is...?


sorry if i sound a bit short, im not,
its better to reply short to make points,
which will not be absorbed right now.


Are you saying we (the members in this thread) are incapable of the same insight as you have? Please elucidate, because this sounds almost as if you have a personal conduit to God which other's, like myself, are devoid of.

On the other aspect of my initial post, I must ask you if you believe Jesus to be like God or the same as God. That's a loaded question, btw, and speaks to the founding of Christianity itself.

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:34 AM
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was it Jesus name ?
Jesus ? the word Jesus ?

or has the name of Jesus a deeper meaning,
and if jesus was one after glorification,
which name we carry ?

God has many names.



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
the bible is a codebook,

This is where you are going wrong.
Looking for codes is a classic way of imposing your own meaning, the meaning that comes from your own mind, instead of accepting the meaning which God is giving in his own act of communication.



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:36 AM
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jesus after glorification died to himself,
jesus died to be born in Oneness,
having all the names.

***this did NOT happen on the cross,
but before the cross.


that oneness died a second time at the cross,
but it wasnot jesus as seperated from you or god, it was god dying again through one of his eyes,
called jesus. god is all.

on ur thoughts about me, i dont reply to much,
im here to give you points of thinking,nothing more.



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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:39 AM
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i talk about what is hidden as in parables...to allow all a cross to take

the key to unlock god is his law, oneness.
not division.

the bible is dual on first sight.
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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
was it Jesus name ?
Jesus ? the word Jesus?

or has the name of Jesus a deeper meaning,
and if jesus was one after glorification,
which name we carry ?

The actual sound being spoken is not what matters. It is the attitude that matters. The "name" refers to his reputation, authority, etc.
"Jesus" is the standard English-language approach to the name he carried in life on this earth, but, as in the Philippians passage that I quoted, he is to be known as "Lord". That is a "name" in the sense that it identifies what he is.



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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i agree with your post, but,
what is the authority ? god divided or god as one.

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"
Matthew 4:10




Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Matthew 28:19-20


Edit: there's your authority!!

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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And your point is...?

All well and good to just paste in biblical quotations, but what do you intend to SAY with them?



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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every command, including the highest one,
love your god = love ALL = forgive God as One in All.
= love truth = even searching atheists become believers ?


there is not a profit in a bible verse shooting game here.

for religions there is a difference between truth and god,
if a person searches Truth, he will never see the complete picture
while still growing towards it. Its not a word that saves us,
it is growth. Children reflect back.

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posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
love your god = love ALL = forgive God as One in All.

I query the concept of forgiving God.
God needs no forgiveness from us.
The Bible is about getting access to forgiveness from God.
And that is central even to Revelation (see my thread on "Satan fell from heaven";
Satan fell from heaven

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