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Why was he getting close to the border patrol agent before he got shot?
Originally posted by deltaboy
reply to post by 3vilscript
Disproportion use of force? Ever heard of stoning? One hit in the head is enough to cause trauma and bleeding, I don't care if it looks ridiculous since the intro of guns, rocks can just be as dangerous. David v. Goliath.
Originally posted by 3vilscript
Yes it is. Yes I have, apparently everyone went and read the Bible after this story surfaced and they keep reminding me of how they used to stone people. First off watch the video again. Is the agent wearing his helmet? Yes you can see something white on his head and all cops I've ever seen on bikes wear them. Granted that a well thrown rock is still dangerous to the face. I'd say the kid was a good 20 to 30 feet away when he was throwing the rocks. Judging from the vid of course. I don't think he would have done much damage to him. But I'll give you even that.
Why didn't the agents try to help after the shooting? He shot into Mexico just fine but he couldn't send a medic? That's what angers me the most. I don't know what I would do in that situation, and maybe the agent panicked, but to not render assistance is inhumane.
Originally posted by nunya13
reply to post by deltaboy
The statement made was that the agent was being "surrounded" and "deadly force" was being used against him. Again, I do not see this in the video.
You ask many questions that bring to mind the phrase, "shoot first, ask questions later". I guess I'm just tired of the excuses that any kind of threat against an officer, no matter how BENIGN, justifies the death of another.
The boy is on the Mexican side. Had he not run back to Mexico just like he did in the beginning of the video, yeah we will help him. What pisses me off more is throwing rocks on the American side.
Agents in the patrol's Tucson, San Diego and Yuma, Ariz., sectors have been armed with guns that launch pepper spray and paintballs and are trained to use them when they come under attack along border fences.
Splattering paint on rock throwers is intended to combat what has become a sharp increase in the number of assaults on agents along the Mexican border.
"It has become a very effective tool," Border Patrol spokesman Ramon Rivera said. "It has helped agents dramatically."
Nothing can be shot into Mexican territory, by a US Fed...nothing. No paint balls not even fluffy cushions.
That US Fed decided to keep his collar and shoot into Mexico and kill a kid in Mexico rather than to do what he supervisors told him to do.
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Logarock
With all the cameras we have nowadays, I am surprised more videos haven't surfaced.
I'm willing to bet US has cameras in the area as well.
Care to give opinion of what you saw on the video?
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Logarock
My first impression is that he wasn't surrounded. However, upon playing the video over and over, I could see where the agent would fear being injured and possibly losing his weapon to guy he was detaining.
Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by jam321
then you have the anonymous person in the article saying that the Mexican fed had a stand off with the US Feds, at gun point.
Man i so wish they would show that part.