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Originally posted by here2Help
Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope though. After reading back over that article about the Javan mud volcano study that UC Berkeley performed, I noticed that the article states that mud volcanoes "frequently erupt underwater, such as in the Gulf of Mexico, where sediments are laid down rapidly."
Assuming this statement is accurate (which, of course, it may not be), do naturally-occurring volcanoes that erupt in the Gulf of Mexico settle down after some period and stop spewing out stuff on their own?
Is it even possible to drill into both an underground volcano *and* an oil reserve under the ocean at the same time? Spewing from the same wellhead?
What if this was just natural gas mixed with some source of oxygen [from where I have no idea]. Granted, still bad, but not as bad as a "mud volcano" it sounds. If that were the case, anyone know where this ample supply of oxygen might be coming from?
Originally posted by here2Help
sorry it seems others have already have addressed this. i have seen in a video where it seems bp is burning off the gas with a tube inserted into the oil and gas as it is shooting out.
Very interesting. Thank you very much for pointing that out! I hadn't seen anything about that yet. I sure hope that's the case.
Originally posted by who-me?
Has everyone forgotten their rudimentary physics?
With a water depth of approx 5,000ft and a well drilled an additional 18,000ft this will give a total depth of 23,000ft. The pressure at this depth will be in the region of 10235psi.
Therefore the boiling point of water will have increased as well to around 439 degrees Celsius. So no superheated steam plume, no explosion.
The pressure of the water column will equalize with the escaping oil wells pressure eventually, even if nothing was done to stop the leak at all.
The original article is full of speculation and poorly arrived at assumptions.
Originally posted by OuttaTime
The million dollar question is how much oil has to spew out before a theoretical neutral pressure is achieved? 50 million barrels? 50 million gallons?
The Tiber oil field is a deepwater offshore oil field in the Gulf of Mexico, discovered by BP in September 2009. Described as a "giant" find, it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place, although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
A question I had a few years back is what kind of damage have we done underground how extensive ? How honeycombed by mining and drilling throughout the years?
Originally posted by OhZone
reply to post by jeffrybinladen
Yes, if evacuation becomes necessary it will destroy many people's lives.
Like myself; we have homes here that are bought and paid for. We would have to abandon them. If ever we came back they would be trashed by looters who would literally tear them apart to get copper pipes, copper wires, aluminum, appliances and anything else left behind.
For retired folks at least half their life savings are tied up in that house they expected to live in for the rest of their lives. Many of them have the house and only their Social Security check to live on. THey would never even be able to pay rent elsewhere.
They are saying now that there is something other than just oil coming up.
I think they said it was "prebiotic" oil which is very toxic stuff.
I sure wish it was just a Mud Volcano.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I found this and I have posted on other topics,
When the Army Corps of Engineers first attempted to obtain NASA imagery of the Gulf oil slick, which is larger than is being reported by the media, it was reportedly denied the access. By chance, National Geographic managed to obtain satellite imagery shots of the extent of the disaster and posted them on their web site. Other satellite imagery reportedly being withheld by the Obama administration, shows that what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be the size of Mount Everest. This information has been given an almost national security-level classification to keep it from the public, according to Madsen’s sources.
Other satellite imagery reportedly being withheld by the Obama administration, shows that what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be the size of Mount Everest. This information has been given an almost national security-level classification to keep it from the public, according to Madsen’s sources
Is this new information?
A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.
According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.
Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally operate in US territorial waters.
However, Sagalevich says that he and the other scientists gave nearly hourly updates to both US government and BP officials about what they were seeing on the sea floor, including the US Senator from their State of Florida Bill Nelson who after one such briefing stated to the MSNBC news service “Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.”