The Most Bloody World War Is Coming. Unthinkable? Think Again.

Why is it that the system that replaces the last system falls into the same trap of corruption, greed and violence? History repeats itself endlessly. What starts out good, ends up failing.

Why? Why don't we learn or evolve that way. Our technology evolved. Human behavior seems to have stagnated.

reply to post by thepixelpusher


Haven't you figured it out yet?

Humanity is inherently insane.

The system's collapse because of our inherent evil.

We will only transcend our insanity and evil if/when we evolve into something else.

It's not happing anytime soon.

We pull ourselves back from the edge each time, so there has to be some hope. I hope that it will stick instead of fade each time.

[edit on 9-6-2010 by thepixelpusher]

Originally posted by reluctantpawn
reply to post by thepixelpusher

 

In short the answer is no. Those that wish to oppress others and take advantage of them must be completely destroyed. Evil is evil. I take it that you have never seen true evil? Should Hitler have been allowed to live? Look at the opression brought on by Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Jong, Amin and others. They ruled with an iron fist. there religion of no religion killed in upwards of 100 million people.There is no living with evil. I would give you sciptural evidence, but you obviously are not interested in religious views.

Your views of christianity are bent at best. Without a doubt many were killed because of it, not because the word said so but because man corrupted it and used it to propagate hate. Jesus came in peace and gave up his life the first time. The second will be with sword in hand. There is a lesson there if wish to see it.

respectfully

reluctantpawn

so, you would "completely destroy them"? that sounds evil to me. thats not to say that i would not destroy them either if push came to shove. and your post suggests you are a religeous person.

therein lies the paradox.

god created everything, but if you dont like some of it, you will destroy, not contain, this "blemish of evil" on the landscape. i find it a dilemma, as we are warned that if we live by the sword, we die by the sword. is it ok to take up the sword for 5 minutes or a day and terminate the evil? and then go back to our peaceful ways?

whenever the time comes, according to the most enlightened philosopher i've come across, a person is born with the power to effect the change that is due. and not before. its all cyclical. until that happens, some people are born with evil intent, or a mind that will sink to the depths of depravity.
when christ came on the scene, i'm sure many people tuned in, and went on to higher development. but the main lot just went on without a lot of change and here we are 2000 years later, hell bent on greed.

cycles rule, and they're mindless.

[edit on 10-6-2010 by orangutang]

reply to post by whaaa


There will be no peace untill there is justice.

Says it all.

reply to post by orangutang


Jesus said to sell your cloak and buy a sword. Destruction of evil is not evil. The conundrum comes with the fallacy of man. Man is sinful by nature. Even the most "religious" of people have a sinful nature. So therefore we pass judgment on others, based not on our responsibility to God, but on our feelings, compassion, goals, and even our ego. The opportunity to judge mankind is a horrible responsibility. Couple that with the sinful nature of mankind and you get tragic results, such as the inquisition. People doing their will in the name of God, for what they thought was the right thing to do.

Do not let the love of your fellow man fall into the error of not passing judgment on evil. Evil cannot be allowed to survive. It will grow and corrupt all that it touches. Evil cannot be changed or reformed. But we must be knowledgeable of the difference between evil, sin, and a lack of understanding. A child may steal a piece of candy. It is his sinful nature to do so. it does not make him evil. A person that goes out to kill and destroy his fellow man by lies and murder is evil, and must be destroyed.

The destruction of evil is not against the tenants of the Bible. It is in fact the basis of it. We saw that Jesus came and laid down his life for our sinful nature. We will see his return to finalize judgment on those that chose to dismiss his sacrifice. It will not be the judgment from man but from God. It will be complete and perfect without blemish as it will not come from the sin of mankind but from the righteousness of God.

Jesus said to love your enemies and pray for those that despitefully use you.Do not let this led you astray in your assumption that we should be a pacifist. Do you not not correct your children in love? Just as we should hold ourselves accountable to keep ourselves pure. We are told we must be the keepers of the law and sometimes the judges. However in passing that judgment it must be done in love and without the sinfulness of man. I very tough job to have.

respectfully

reluctantpawn

I was hoping Jesus gave us a way to figure out how to contain the evil without stooping to their level of overt violence. Self defense I can understand, but should we wage a holy war? Maybe Jesus didn't say that.

Jesus, I hope not.

reply to post by thepixelpusher


He did give us aw3ay to avoid it. We chose not to follow it!

respectfully

reluctantpawn

Hoping to freshen up the thread with some new posts.

[edit on 22-7-2010 by thepixelpusher]

Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by reluctantpawn

 

You forgot to add something to your list:

As long as religion in any form exists, there will be war.

As long as christians continue attempting to impose their beliefs and "morality" on the masses, there will be war.

Religion, is an institution or construct. It does nothing. It's followers however do act. Take away religion and I believe the same actions from people would still be happening. Religion is used many times to motivate people into negative or positive actions. But it still is a constructed community that people can choose to embrace or shun. How can an inanimate thing control us? Humans run religion.

Spirituality, or belief in a diety is something different (in my mind at least). It's not limited to a system.

Another take on my argument. "Guns kill people", so let's remove all guns and there will be no more killings. Actually the human pulling the trigger kills using the gun. Take away the gun and I think we'd still resort to rocks and sticks to do the killing.

Take away the human behavior that craves chaos and conflict and we'd be closer to solving our problems.

[edit on 22-7-2010 by thepixelpusher]

reply to post by unityemissions


You make some excellent points and I am reluctantly ageeing with you on why we still have the society and human behavior that we have. It's who a large majority of us are. It's tough to admit that's where we're at right now. We will evolve, but it's not coming soon enough is something else I agree with you on.

I'll have to check out that UN document. Do you have a quick overview of it's contents and why we should all know about it?



[edit on 22-7-2010 by thepixelpusher]

No I dont think there is any great war coming,divide and rule has progressed from a military to an economic matter,the countries and corporations have largely divied up the worlds resources for which despot dictators are only to happy to surrender in return for tanks and toys and large sums of cash to build palaces and large statues of there likeness which these tanks and toys can parade past on national we love despot day.O theres some scraps on the table to squabble over like non Rothchild banking countries such as Iran,Syria and North Korea,but largely the cake is sliced.No sir the coming war is not about guns and explosions but freedom and freewill.

reply to post by anglodemonicmatrix


Actually, I'll admit the thread title was made more dramatic to get some attention to this discussion. It seems that we are on an ever constant cycle of violence that ramps up and down without ever wiping us out totally. The human behavior and motivations are the same over millions of years, but our technology does evolve.

What I'm pointing out in the original post is that the technology may enable us to create a war or event that can potentially affect a great many and extinguish our species. Technology isn't the problem...we are.

reply to post by thepixelpusher

Well if you look at the development in non-lethal technologies the cutting edge is devoted to control of the species,when they light up the grid my friend this planet wont be worth living on.Its going to be a very nasty video game and the common man wont have a joystick-how do you defend yourself against a sattelite based system?

We can but we won't...

Not sure why but... (I speak for myself) doom is addicting!
Which really tells a lot about people in general.

*sights*

Doom topic following is probably your survival instinct kicking in. Also, some media persons have benefitted from playing the doom scenario. People pay attention if they think they can avoid danger. Look at the threads here since the stocks tumbled and you'll see that those economic doom threads went wild with posts. Almost none had nailed what happened since the fall, save a few individuals...some who must be psychic

Bump for new thoughts.

Second line.

Second thoughts are that ww3 is right around the corner. I think this is a resource war over airable land, clean water, and oil deposits. We're pretty much at peak everything as far as I can tell. I personally think that the elite have engineered the economic collapse, and war as a means to keep civilization going for a couple more decades. It's the only thing that seems reasonable to me .. so if you're actually going for a take on the elite being sane after all .. there you go.

.. and if not, they're psychopathic bastard people who are engineering everything, controlling everything, and just want to watch us suffer.

Take your pick.

reply to post by unityemissions


I agree that something is brewing. When we have such deep economic turmoil worldwide and the wars we're waging in the world at the same time...well it makes for some pretty tense situations that could spin out of anyones control. And with biological, computer, nuclear, and traditional weapons we are ripe for some nasty things to happen. God help us if some force in the world starts a false flag event. That will trigger things as much as a real event and open up pandora's box of world war again.

reply to post by unityemissions


I agree that something is brewing. When we have such deep economic turmoil worldwide and the wars we're waging in the world at the same time...well it makes for some pretty tense situations that could spin out of anyones control. And with biological, computer, nuclear, and traditional weapons we are ripe for some nasty things to happen. God help us if some force in the world starts a false flag event. That will trigger things as much as a real event and open up pandora's box of world war again.