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Originally posted by Adian00
Hello illimey,
Good read; however, I wanted to bring to your attention two things.
2 Peter 3:8 states, " But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." KJV
Taking this into account it could be interpreted that God created the world in 7000 years. Yet, in my studies, I have come to belive that this comparason is used to infer that God stands outside of time, that God is master of time (much like you beleive.) Is it possible that God created the world in 7 days...sure! Is it probable? Maybe not so much. Why the rush? I beleive that God works thru science toward his ultimate means.
The second point is this. The bible has changed many many times over the centuries. This probably started when Constantine made Christianity the cheif religion of the Roman Empire. However, it could have begun centuries earlier before the scriptures were an taught by word of mouth instead of by being writtend down. (The written scriptures didn't come into being untill the Jewish exile into the Diaspora.)
I urge you to pick up 6 different bibles and read the same scripture. You'll find that many infer different different things and ideas. We did this experiement in my African American Religious Studies class this past semester and the Christans were astonished. I do beleive that there is a pure message in there somewhere but over the centuries, flawed men have taken to intrepreting them. People often make the mistake that the apostles were perfect...incapable of misintrepreting the gospel. However, they struggled with sin just like every other man. They were human after all.
At any rate, I don't think that beleiving in science undermines ones faith in God, actually, I think it could enforce it.
Originally posted by PhoenixSGC
I say, stick to spirituality, that way, it's easier to balance science and religion...I myself loooovvve science and so, religion party anoys me since I am told over and over again, that we popped out of dust and ribs...
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Love and Light
Phoenix
After all, science also correctly tells us that energy can neither be created or destroyed
Which is more plausible from a SCIENTIFIC point of view?
Originally posted by illimey
But doesn't science and tell us over and over again that we popped out of nothing via mutating mud?
My faith tells me that God (eternal, omnipotent and the source of all energy) made everything we see utilising His intrinsic energy.
Which is more plausible from a SCIENTIFIC point of view?
After all, science also correctly tells us that energy can neither be created or destroyed.
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by Yngwie
After all, science also correctly tells us that energy can neither be created or destroyed
Then doesn't this prove your theory of God creating us, atoms, aka energy. Wrong.
Which is more plausible from a SCIENTIFIC point of view?
Obviously the one scientists came up with..becuase they are scientists.
[edit on 14-6-2004 by Yngwie]
Originally posted by illimey
I am puzzled. My claim is that God is the source of all energy. When He made the universe and everything in it He merely used energy He already possessed. However, I have to continue on and say that I actually totally believe that God has the ability to create energy from nothing. But - just what the heck IS 'nothing' anyway? Does it even exist? Bother - I'm getting sidetracked!!!!
Originally posted by mOjOm
Originally posted by illimey
I am puzzled. My claim is that God is the source of all energy. When He made the universe and everything in it He merely used energy He already possessed. However, I have to continue on and say that I actually totally believe that God has the ability to create energy from nothing. But - just what the heck IS 'nothing' anyway? Does it even exist? Bother - I'm getting sidetracked!!!!
Why, what's the point??? Not to mention where is the logic behind such a statement??? Even you immediately recognize a problem in saying What is Nothing? and Does it even exists? and so on. Saying that God has the power to create energy out of nothing is just complicating things.
God is Infinite, Yes?
God is Source, Yes?
If the Source is Infinite, then perhaps Energy that comes from the Source is therefore infinite too, therefore No Need to Create anything out of nothing or any other strange paradox type concepts like that.