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4.7 million Mexicans living in the US without authorization turned to a little-known Mexican government identity document called the matrícula
consular. The ID cards have given undocumented immigrants a sense of security but have been received with mixed reactions by public and private
A sharp debate on the merits of consular IDs has engaged the public, political circles, the media, the private sector, immigration authorities, and
law enforcement agencies. On the one hand, proponents of such programs say the cards protect immigrants, their families, and communities by
facilitating their ability to open bank accounts, access some limited public services, and work with authorities to resolve crimes and other social
ills. On the other hand, critics question whether undocumented immigrants should have access to such services, and assert that consular ID programs
subvert US policy and promote unauthorized immigration.
How this debate shapes up is likely to have significant consequences for millions of undocumented immigrants. It is also likely to have a bearing on
how the United States shapes its domestic security efforts. Understanding the debate requires examining several key aspects of the consular ID
programs, including the extensive Mexican program, the cards' relationship to immigrant banking and remittances, the effect on local law enforcement,
and the prospects for developing such programs for other countries.
Important to note this statement, They Do Not Have The Legal Right To Live and Work In America. So you give them a Fake Identity?
•Not only does the matricula subvert U.S. immigration law, it is not even a secure identity document. Mexico is not authenticating the documents
used to obtain the matricula against computerized data files in Mexico.
•Safeguards are not in place to prevent multiple issuance of matriculas to the same individual; in fact, the INS has already reported finding
multiple cards in different names issued to the same person.
•The matricula consular is useful in the United States only for illegal aliens, since legal immigrants, by definition, have U.S. government-issued
•The Mexican government has launched an aggressive grassroots lobbying campaign to win acceptance for its matricula card from state and local
jurisdictions and from banks, especially in areas where Mexican illegal aliens are concentrated.
•The objective of this lobbying effort is to achieve quasi-legal status for Mexican illegals in the United States without waiting for action from
•The matricula itself, however, is useful to illegal aliens only insofar as U.S. institutions are willing to collaborate with Mexico’s efforts to
circumvent U.S. immigration law.
Source: IDs for Illegals: The 'Matricula Consular' Advances Mexico's Immigration Agenda www.cis.org...
Sham Mexican ID card.
Q. Why should I get a Mexican ID?
A. Criminal Friendly Cities like Los Angeles that recognize the ID, will make life easier for you if you carry the ID.
Q. What are the advantages of having a Mexican ID?
A. A Mexican ID can be used in lieu of a driver's license to access a wide range of public services in the City and County of Los Angeles.
Q. Do I have to be a Mexican to get a Mexican ID?
A. No, you only have to present a forged Mexican Birth Certificate to the Mexican Consulate in Los Angeles.
Q. What if I am an Anglo Criminal. Can I still get a Mexican ID?
A. Technically, yes. But unlike our local authorities, the Mexican Government profiles. The Consulate might get suspicious if you have blond hair and
Q. Many Mexicans like myself were born in a small village where most of the newborn didn't even obtain birth certificates.
A. Not to worry. Use a forged birth certificate which you can obtain for $25.00 on Alvarado Blvd in the Mac Arthur Park section of L.A. The Mexican
Consulate does not verify the information on the birth certificate. But even if they did, they are no better at verifying birth certificates than the
L.A. City Council.
Q. What if I get stopped for going through a red light. Will I be deported?
A. No. Upon presenting your Mexican ID, the LAPD officer who stops you, will know that you are illegally in the country, otherwise you wouldn't need
the Mexican ID in the first place. Deporting you would defeat the purpose of the ID. You will only get a ticket.
Q. Will I have to pay the ticket?
A. No. You won't have to pay the ticket because it will be too much trouble to track you down. But to be on the safe side, you should have several
false Mexican IDs to show on different occasions to confuse your identity. None of your IDs should have the correct address or contact information.
LAPD officers will not be able to do a "make" on you to verify any information you give them. Remember, once an LAPD officer gives you a ticket,
he's done and you are on your way.
Q. What if I am a fugitive and get stopped for going through a red light in a car that I just stole. Will I go to jail?
A. No. When you present your Mexican ID to the LAPD officer, he will have no way of knowing that you are a serial killer or that you just stole the
car you were stopped in. The worst that will happen is that the car you just stole will be impounded and the officer will tell you that you will have
to walk home. But you won't have to walk home if you steal another car.
Q. If I am an American Citizen or legal resident who has a valid ID such as a driver's license, is there an advantage to also obtaining a Mexican
A. Yes. There is a big advantage for criminals to use a Mexican ID instead of a valid California driver's license. If you are stopped by an LAPD
officer for an infraction, he won't know that you are a criminal if you show a Mexican ID. That's why it is a good idea to leave your California
driver's license home.
Q. Why would the Mexican Consulate issue a Mexican ID if I already have a valid California ID?
A. The Mexican government recognizes dual citizenship. If you or your mother are from Mexico, they will be happy to provide you with a supplemental
Mexican ID. But just to stay on the safe side, don't tell them that you are an American Citizen or Legal Resident.
Q. What happens if the Mexican Consulate figures out that I am trying to obtain a Mexican ID with a false birth certificate?
A. Nothing. But they won't let you have the ID.
FAQ courtesy of Mr. Hal Netkin of LAWatchdog.com
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