Turkish Navy will Escort aid to Gaza

Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
reply to post by rationaluser

 

Whew! The atheist speaks! The hammer drops and the sickle reaps. OOh I'm scared, OOhhhh.

And I am 100% for separation of church and state. What I object to are the progressives who even want to ban the word "God" from our money, and the pledge of allegiance. These people are the communists. You sound like one yourself.

What's this got to do with Turkey?

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Wow nice to see sarcasm on ATS thought i'd never see it again. Don't lie you said they can never take away what's in our hearts implying you were sorry that the church state divide even happend. And why shouldn't god be banned from the pledge? and money? seems pretty useless to assert a being that powerful exists yet can't provide evidence /is hiding the fact that it exists.

And don't make the assertion that people like me are communists for being atheist that's poisoning the well and if you actually did your RESEARCH you'd know about the christian dark ages the curse upon humanity it brought the MILLENIA it took for us to regain that knowledge once known to us, the crusades, the killing in the name of a god. And you have the audacity to come on here as if your word is just and true? fine be dellusioned you have the mindset of a fundamentalist as bad as islam or the jewish zionist community in israel.

Do you not see it is religion that is the problem all this "my god is better than your god" mentality that has torn the middle east into what it is now.

So my question to you is why support something that divides people so rigorously they would kill over it? you don't see other atheists kill in the name of dawkins, darwin or hawking!!

reply to post by PlayeR87


You assume provocation, i dont live in israel but if i did i know i would be over protective of my family, so understand your defense.

But stop the collective punishment of palestine it is not the answer , babies are dieing.

The world is awake, and we have they are 40 million Irish in the USA , please dont kill any irish .

You have a right to exist and i will defend that also, but calm down lads and dont kill any Irish .

Paddy

ps . Dont kill anyone , im not selective , just calm down lads



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reply to post by Gooseygander


Eh? I am not Israeli, I am also Irish. What I was trying to say is the Israeli blockade IS wrong but why risk an incident with them when it would be easier to bring the aid in through Egypt.

Ok its nice to meet a fellow paddy, but I am not questioning there honest motives, you not following the common irish thread though, pm me where you from and il chat , will you forgive me if i call you a liar, other paddys have pm me why didnt you , good try , Rachel Corrie .. dead in the water or dafe ?

ps your not irish w me pls and ill retract

and you better know gaelic

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Looks like it won't be long before Hamas and the Turks provide us with even more live entertainment from the Mediteranian.

Siskel and Ebert give 2 thumbs up!


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Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
Looks like it won't be long before Hamas and the Turks provide us with even more live entertainment from the Mediteranian.

Siskel and Ebert give 2 thumbs up!


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not as much entertainment without you on the boat D:

reply to post by rationaluser

Do you not see it is religion that is the problem all this "my god is better than your god" mentality that has torn the middle east into what it is now.

Not at all. Moslems, Christians, and Jews basically worship the same God. And the great majority want to live in peace. Its the people like yourself who side with the few who are trying to throw a wrench into the works, that have torn the Middle East a new one, Dog.

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Turkish Navy

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listen everyone. there is a very serious reason why Turkey will be escorting the flotilla's and also a very big reason why Israel trains with Turkey.

The Turkish military is the world's fourth largest army in whole World and NATO's second largest & strongest military power after the USA's armed forces


this looks to go very bad. is there any prophecies or quatrains that show these 2 dragging everybody into fubar.
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Originally posted by PlayeR87
reply to post by Gooseygander

 

Eh? I am not Israeli, I am also Irish. What I was trying to say is the Israeli blockade IS wrong but why risk an incident with them when it would be easier to bring the aid in through Egypt.

What news sources do you read mate? .. Egypt refuses ALL forms of aid and supplies into Gaza.. they have a shoot on sight policy. No medical supplies, building supplies, nothing.. not a damn thing enters through Egypt. The last time anything entered was the last time Israel moved tanks into Gaza, a rush of refugees over ran the Egyptian border guards and started carrying all kinds of items into Gaza.

Egypt has been asked by the international community (and has so far agreed) to open it's borders for the first time since Hamas gained power, for the time being while Israel and Turkey measure the sizes of their penises, at which time when ever it blows over, Egypt will once again seal its border. Egypt HATES, absolutely despises Palestinians.

ALL aid into Gaza comes through Israel .. the reason the flotilla was boarded was that it broke the blockade and tried to bring it directly to Gaza, which is not permitted.. all aid must dock at an Israeli port, be searched, then trucked in through land.

reply to post by MY2Commoncentsworth


What filled your heart so with hate?
What has this picture to do with the thread?
I like weaponary comparison. But the real comparison would frighten you.

reply to post by deccal


What filles your heart with hate my friend?
What has your video have to do with the thread?
I also like weaponry comparison. But the real comparison frightens you.

NUKES

Israel: 150
Turkey: 0

reply to post by Gooseygander


Why would I lie regarding my nationality?

Turkey is a member of NATO .. mmmm
If Israel attacks the Turkish escort it with be teh USS Liberty part II
Maybe, this time something will be done apart from serious words.

Israel is well overdue an International smackdown .

israel wont mess around they will attack the turks

Originally posted by Rockpuck

Originally posted by PlayeR87
reply to post by Gooseygander

 

Eh? I am not Israeli, I am also Irish. What I was trying to say is the Israeli blockade IS wrong but why risk an incident with them when it would be easier to bring the aid in through Egypt.

What news sources do you read mate? .. Egypt refuses ALL forms of aid and supplies into Gaza.. they have a shoot on sight policy. No medical supplies, building supplies, nothing.. not a damn thing enters through Egypt. The last time anything entered was the last time Israel moved tanks into Gaza, a rush of refugees over ran the Egyptian border guards and started carrying all kinds of items into Gaza.

Egypt has been asked by the international community (and has so far agreed) to open it's borders for the first time since Hamas gained power, for the time being while Israel and Turkey measure the sizes of their penises, at which time when ever it blows over, Egypt will once again seal its border. Egypt HATES, absolutely despises Palestinians.

ALL aid into Gaza comes through Israel .. the reason the flotilla was boarded was that it broke the blockade and tried to bring it directly to Gaza, which is not permitted.. all aid must dock at an Israeli port, be searched, then trucked in through land.

"it broke the blockade and tried to bring it directly to Gaza, which is not permitted"

How can you summon law out of lawlessness? What jurisdiction is the blockade of Gaza internationally recognized as legal? How can the fact that this was in international laws be ignored? Don't cite to me countries whose government are lobbied by Israelis. I don't think I need to mention the word bias.

Has there been any word as to whether or not Turkey is actually going to do this? I havn't heard anything from that side in a while.

Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
reply to post by deccal

 

NUKES

Israel: 150
Turkey: 0

Ha...Israel going to lob a nuke at the navy then? I'd LOOOOVEE to see Israel fire off a nuke at ANY of the muslim countries and try to justify it....You DO realize a nuke has only been used in combat by the United States...and the next time one goes off it will be BIG news....the UNSC would likely condemn ANY country that uses a nuke in warfare. While being useful as a "threat" a nuke makes a horrible conventional weapon in our day and age. It's hard to justify destroying ALL life in a 8+ miles radius......

reply to post by TSawyer


Last I checked, Gaza is a territory of Israel. Israel is a sovergn nation. These ships were coming from a foreign nation. Hmmm try taking a ship from mexico and coming ashore where ever you want. See how the US coast gaurd and customs reacts to that. As a sovergn nation, Israel has the right to direct that anything coming within its borders must be inspected by Israeli customs.

They have a blockade of gaza because they know that there are people out there (not saying the people on this flotilla) that would like to bring supplies like weapons to Gaza so that Hamas can kill Israelis. The Israeli government said that is not allowed. Period, discussion over.

reply to post by ElijahWan


Nuclear weapons are a deterent. Turkey's navy will not engage the Israeli navy because if there is an armed conflict that Israel perceives will escalate into all out war with a much larger country, they may feel that they have no choice but to fire a nuke at Turkey to prevent an invasion.

The fact that Turkey does not have nukes means that Israel does not need to fear a retaliatory strike. Thus, the balence of power from a military perspective is in Israel's favor. Turkey knows this and will not risk a confrontation.

Furthermore, it is possible to use nuclear weapons against naval forces. Just look up the US experiments at Bikini Atole. The EMP alone would render Turkey's navy useless.