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It's impossible for God to be evil.
God can't murder. He made life and takes it away. Nobody complains of murder from the old man dying.
It's lack of understanding inside humans that rebel.
life is a gift, not something we deserve. he can take it at his pleasing.
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
Considering God created us not Satan and placed the ability to love in our hearts means ofcourse Gods the good one.
Even the concept of (good) is from God since he placed that emotion in our heart.
which means common sense says, for Satan to be good yet the one who made him not good is ridiculous and impossible. Why would God make love in the first place.
goodness starts with God.
[edit on 30-5-2010 by JesusisTruth]
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Sorry man, but a person cannot create their own version of God and shoot down that version as illogical that they created to begin with.
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
No some of the biggest hypocrites have been immoral not christian. A pile of crap can call itself christian, doesn't make it christian.
Grace is put in souls by God. We can't be good without him. because he supplies love and grace to our souls.
I had two friends growing up. They both had dogs. One beat his dog for fun and punched it in the face for a luagh (not jokin). The other took good care of it.
The latter had grace. Since I see your understanding is little on grace, that's the simplest way i can put it.
Grace is love. God puts it there.
For God to not have what he put in us is ridiculous.
Who cares if it has been done by Christians in times past?? What on Earth does that have to do with THIS debate, in THIS thread?? Nothing, and furthermore, 2 wrongs make a right is ANOTHER fallacy of logic. Fail X2.
Originally posted by Eight
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Sorry man, but a person cannot create their own version of God and shoot down that version as illogical that they created to begin with.
Why not? You Christians do it all the time. Throughout history the Bible has been changed, rewritten, and edited to fit the wants and needs of a corrupt church. For instance, the word Witch was placed in the bible instead of the original word so that the church could persecute anybody they deemed a 'Witch' mainly women and children.
The Bible has come to be a means of escaping punishment rather than facing up to the crimes one has committed, Catholics in particular. Look at the number of priest that a known to have molested young boys but are protected by the church.
The Bible has become a corrupted book of lies and half-truths. It is now, and for centuries has been a work of the Devil.
What logic? You quoted my attempt to stop straw man arguments from being used in this thread. How in God's green Earth, pun intended, is that my failed attempt at defeating logic? Or are you referring to me pointing out that using 2 wrongs to make a right is ALSO a fallacy of logic??
Originally posted by Eight
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You really do need to calm down and it has everything to do with this thread,did you not read and understand the implications of such a title?
Now if God didn't appear in the bible or if Christians didn't use it to justify or condemn everything under the sun that didn't attune to their view,then you would have a point.
But since this is the case you don't have a point because the bible is the tool Christians use to control and sway public opinion and perception.
If you were looking for a voice of one then maybe the title should have been named something else because really, what believer in God and the Bible is going to say otherwise.
This thread is contradictory based on the title and your objection to my difference of opinion and with that said I'll leave yo to your fireside chat.
I forgot one little thing. You reacted like most religious zealots react when they can't defeat logic, and that is get mad.
Originally posted by Intuitiveaptitude2009
Originally posted by nightrun
extraterrestrial / alien species)
Gods actions on earth ? What were those exactly ? What had he done to adam and eve that it was right for satan to tempt them ? Think about that. By the way who's to say adam and eve were dumb ? You ? Maybe if they had rejected satan. They would have had a higher knowledge.
It was part of His plan. God doesn't make mistakes, everything done is according to His plans.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Intuitiveaptitude2009
Originally posted by nightrun
extraterrestrial / alien species)
Gods actions on earth ? What were those exactly ? What had he done to adam and eve that it was right for satan to tempt them ? Think about that. By the way who's to say adam and eve were dumb ? You ? Maybe if they had rejected satan. They would have had a higher knowledge.
Now why would a God allow a supernatural entity access to His brand new human prototypes.
Seems like a rather silly move on His part.
Can you enlighten us?
Regards
DL
LOL wuuuut? I know the NKJV has occultist symbols on the cover, but NEVER heard what you claim. I have also seen the blatant pro-Satan slant in the NIV verses though.
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
Nightrun/ Well the machine doesn't have two lives does it?
When God takes a soul, the life continues. But he can't murder because he made it in the first place and can decide when to take it.
The machine doesn't have life. Our lives are not a right it's a gift.
Notyourtypical the 1611 KJV did have satanic images in it.