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Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by Goethe
The only way I have found to "clean up" the Chemtrail threads is the Ignore feature. I have wasted ENOUGH time with those that do not do their due diligence. For whatever reason, they often derail these threads.
I am going to be taking my OWN air samples to push this cart further down the path.
He later lists sites such as RENSE and YOUTUBE as providing "evidence".
Originally posted by Goethe
How about the Guardian story?
I guess thats crazy?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
reply to post by ChemBreather
I look at the videos, which have nothing to do with evidence of "chemtrails", but some reference to government chemical testing. The guy in the sunglasses referenced some mildly interesting things, but offered no evidence, was incorrect in some of his citations, and seemed to be simply assembling disparate facts ("Plum Island and the Rothchilds!"). Operation Whitecoat actually involved willing participants allowing themselves to become infected, which lead to vaccine development.
At some point somebody needs to pony up some actual tangible evidence about this alleged "chemtrail" conspiracy, not distractive videos regarding government chemical testing which nobody debates, nor lengthy papers written by paranoid conspiracy theorists who also have no tangible evidence, nor news stories about goobers who test their contaminated water and believe it represents atmospheric conditions.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
reply to post by ChemBreather
I look at the videos, which have nothing to do with evidence of "chemtrails", but some reference to government chemical testing. The guy in the sunglasses referenced some mildly interesting things, but offered no evidence, was incorrect in some of his citations, and seemed to be simply assembling disparate facts ("Plum Island and the Rothchilds!"). Operation Whitecoat actually involved willing participants allowing themselves to become infected, which lead to vaccine development.
At some point somebody needs to pony up some actual tangible evidence about this alleged "chemtrail" conspiracy, not distractive videos regarding government chemical testing which nobody debates, nor lengthy papers written by paranoid conspiracy theorists who also have no tangible evidence, nor news stories about goobers who test their contaminated water and believe it represents atmospheric conditions.
Originally posted by OnTheFelt
Second, Rense is no less credible than the MSM who are proven to be controlled by Global Elitists.
Originally posted by Goethe
How about any of the links I provided...
But... I can honestly see already where youll response will be... If you can go outside and spend a day looking above you and not question it... YOU ARE BEYOND HELP
How about this... Can anyone PROVE THEY DONT EXIST?
Afew like to ask wheres the evidence... But wheres yours? A link to an ATS thread is just as crediable, if not less, than any of the links I provided...
So... Anyone?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by OnTheFelt
Second, Rense is no less credible than the MSM who are proven to be controlled by Global Elitists.
Oh jeez. The Global Elistist Control.
Rense is anything BUT credible.
Youtube is user-provided content with no journalistic standards. Most "chemtrail" videos involve someone's camcorder videos of jet contrails, or slow-news-day news stories like the one that was posted of the guy in Arkansas that thought his contaminated water sample was representative of air quality.
With all the "chemtrail" zealots here I'm quite surprised nobody can seem to offer up any credible, tangible evidence of any kind.
Originally posted by ChemBreather
Well, OBVIOUSLY you are not paying attention, you are in Denial , just Wake up already, You have No profe What So Ever it is Untrue, you 'guys' in that Basement, you toss around so called 'science' that is 'approved' by Corrupt agencies, nothing you provide will change my mind on this or explain why planes ONLY have a contrail for 500 Meters that the Engine STOPS and GLIDES along .. Yea, planes coming with Normal Contrails, then a 'Spray is Acuring' then it goes back to normal contrails, how you explain that ? Hu ! Just derailing the Thread by getting the People focused on Are they chems or are they NOT chem trials, rather than discussing the CHEMTRAIL which is the topic.. I dont care a bout Contrails, I dont think the others here does either... Okey ? Get IT ?!
It is like talking about Rats in a Ferrari discussion....Savy !?
Originally posted by ChemBreather
Dont come here wasting time on something You do not belive in . Why the Need to pressure others to believe what you do ?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by ChemBreather
Dont come here wasting time on something You do not belive in . Why the Need to pressure others to believe what you do ?
Forums are for discussion and not everyone shares your opinions. I pressure nobody to believe anything. That's your job. I pressure people for evidence to support their claims. It gets people thinking nd talking and it's what makes forums a great place. Now please, stop with the temper tantrum and let's talk like normal people.
Originally posted by ChemBreather
They ARE corrupt Agancies, because you do not understand the Past , i do, I know what is up , no one listens, and we have people like you , defending those very people, that makes we wonder, are you a part of them? or do you not know what is up ?
Thes Chemtrails are there , Ive seen alot,I have heard alot, do I belive all of it ? NO, I believe that its true purpose is not know to alot of people, but, people Blindly denying some thing that is Plainly observed in the sky is either Ill-Informed or a very a Young person indoctrinated by the Elite, there really isnt much more to say on the matter....
You prove to me How and Why a plane can have a 'Contrail' for only a few hundred meters a mile wide that hangs there for a whole day ! You know as well as I that Normal Contrails disapears after a very short time, so why are you defending 'Contrails' that Lasts for hours after hours ???
EXplain that to me , You KNOW contrails do NOT last 6 to 8 hours...Right !?
Originally posted by ChemBreather
I know a very few people share my oppinion, people cant Grasp my oppinions,and we are not discussing any thing, this is just a war to convert people to Not belive their Eyes when they Spot New things in the Skies..
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by ChemBreather
They ARE corrupt Agancies, because you do not understand the Past , i do, I know what is up , no one listens, and we have people like you , defending those very people, that makes we wonder, are you a part of them? or do you not know what is up ?
I see. You know what is up and I do not.
I defend nobody. All I ask for is proof of these chemtrails. You can't provide any, nobody else can and I can reasonably assert that they don't exist until I can be proven otherwise.
Thes Chemtrails are there , Ive seen alot,I have heard alot, do I belive all of it ? NO, I believe that its true purpose is not know to alot of people, but, people Blindly denying some thing that is Plainly observed in the sky is either Ill-Informed or a very a Young person indoctrinated by the Elite, there really isnt much more to say on the matter....
I neither blindly deny anything nor am I indoctrinated. I am a thinking, rational individual. Someone's misinterpretation of a plainly observed persistent contrail is simply a misinterpretation.
You prove to me How and Why a plane can have a 'Contrail' for only a few hundred meters a mile wide that hangs there for a whole day ! You know as well as I that Normal Contrails disapears after a very short time, so why are you defending 'Contrails' that Lasts for hours after hours ???
"Normal contrails" come in a variety of forms based on temperature and relative humidity.
EXplain that to me , You KNOW contrails do NOT last 6 to 8 hours...Right !?
Yes, some contrails do under certain conditions. They are called "persistent contrails". You can easily research them using the internet and Google.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by ChemBreather
I know a very few people share my oppinion, people cant Grasp my oppinions,and we are not discussing any thing, this is just a war to convert people to Not belive their Eyes when they Spot New things in the Skies..
This is not a war. This is a discussion.
People see all kinds of things. Magicians make us see a woman cut in half with a saw. The woman is not really cut in half though. The magician has made you believe she has. The eyes deceive us regularly and cannot be a reliable source of information, particularly when you're viewing a contrail from many kilometers away.
Contrails have changed over the years and there are reasons why contrails linger and persist. I suggest you research them instead of assuming a conspiracy.