The 'trails' were there for a long time right ?
Wierd how the contrails have mutated into huge wide streaks of Barium and other goodstuff over the years....Yum yum..
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reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 04:55 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by truthseeker1984
Well, glad to see, in a later post, that you admit not knowing much about "chemtrails" (Hint: They are a hoax. Fearmongering by certain people who spend way too much time making websites for you to come along, and read for the first time, and apparently become "convinced").
What you have, there, my friend, are photos of everyday, common contrails.
Take your head out, up and ways from the "chemtrail" nonsense sites, and do some real research, and learning.
You owe it to yourself, lest you repeat their garbage pseudo-science and regret it later. Because, eventually, you will learn the actual science, and will feel a little bit chagrined, for having been fooled.
Well, glad to see, in a later post, that you admit not knowing much about "chemtrails" (Hint: They are a hoax. Fearmongering by certain people who spend way too much time making websites for you to come along, and read for the first time, and apparently become "convinced").
What you have, there, my friend, are photos of everyday, common contrails.
Take your head out, up and ways from the "chemtrail" nonsense sites, and do some real research, and learning.
You owe it to yourself, lest you repeat their garbage pseudo-science and regret it later. Because, eventually, you will learn the actual science, and will feel a little bit chagrined, for having been fooled.
reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 05:14 PM by truthseeker1984
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by truthseeker1984
Well, glad to see, in a later post, that you admit not knowing much about "chemtrails" (Hint: They are a hoax. Fearmongering by certain people who spend way too much time making websites for you to come along, and read for the first time, and apparently become "convinced").
What you have, there, my friend, are photos of everyday, common contrails.
Take your head out, up and ways from the "chemtrail" nonsense sites, and do some real research, and learning.
You owe it to yourself, lest you repeat their garbage pseudo-science and regret it later. Because, eventually, you will learn the actual science, and will feel a little bit chagrined, for having been fooled.
And BOOM! goes the dynamite.
And I think you presume that I have been ingraining my brain into the chemtrail conspiracy. The only thing I know about them is from members posting on this very forum. Believe me, I am not visiting these sites. I only presented the photos to members of the board to discuss (*cough* argue) over what they may or may not be. Nothing more. This is one theory I was interested in learning about. What better way then to hear both sides of the argument, eh?
Thanks for your *ahem* brunt post. I anxiously await to see what others have to say. I'm in the middle right now, and could care less either way. I was just interested in the subject.
Peace be with you.
-truthseeker
reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 05:27 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by truthseeker1984
Whew!
Cool your jets, Myrtle!
I won't bore you with a butt-load of videos, you can go look at them for yourselves....here's is just one.
BEST way to understand clouds is by watching them in time-lapse.
(YES, contrails are actually clouds....man-made, because they form as a result of airplanes flying through the properly humid air --- air that is ALWAYS different, in humidity levels, from hour to hour, day to day, and even at various altitudes).
Here, time-lapse:
Notice how not ONE of those clouds ever comes 'down' to the Earth? They stay aloft, and pass by, overhead, as they are carried by the prevailing winds. This one example covers a six-hour time period, according to the maker.
In any case, ALL of those contrails are far too thin to do much, anyway...except, like most other types of clouds, they offer various levels f reflectivity and albedo variances, but clouds are transient, over the many hours and days....and cumulative, at times, again....very basic meteorology.
It is very, very basic stuff, thiis meteorology.
Whew!
Cool your jets, Myrtle!
I won't bore you with a butt-load of videos, you can go look at them for yourselves....here's is just one.
BEST way to understand clouds is by watching them in time-lapse.
(YES, contrails are actually clouds....man-made, because they form as a result of airplanes flying through the properly humid air --- air that is ALWAYS different, in humidity levels, from hour to hour, day to day, and even at various altitudes).
Here, time-lapse:
Notice how not ONE of those clouds ever comes 'down' to the Earth? They stay aloft, and pass by, overhead, as they are carried by the prevailing winds. This one example covers a six-hour time period, according to the maker.
In any case, ALL of those contrails are far too thin to do much, anyway...except, like most other types of clouds, they offer various levels f reflectivity and albedo variances, but clouds are transient, over the many hours and days....and cumulative, at times, again....very basic meteorology.
It is very, very basic stuff, thiis meteorology.
reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 05:32 PM by Northwarden
Take your head out, up and ways from the "chemtrail" nonsense sites, and do some real research, and learning.
You owe it to yourself, lest you repeat their garbage pseudo-science and regret it later. Because, eventually, you will learn the actual science, and will feel a little bit chagrined, for having been fooled.
Lol!! like your "serious research" in the last chemtrail thread? You must be on the payroll man, and you are so afraid of anyone thinking otherwise that you have to spout inadequate deflections like this.
Truthseeker (and others interested), I did a Lot of research into uncovering this on the latest Chemtrail thread, and please rest assured that they are real. We are speaking about conspiracy facts, not hoaxes. Take the time to plough through these five pages and you'll learn a lot. I spent many hours, and sources range from independants, chemtrail sites, geoengineering straight-up science sources in connection to the SAG program, and some delving ino the history of chemspraying.
It should be quite apparant by the end that Weedwhacker here chooses ignorance and denial over even an ounce of disclosure on the matter.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
BTW - The matter heated up. You'll need to see pages 4 and 5.
[edit on 6-5-2010 by Northwarden]
reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 05:40 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by Northwarden
Really glad you linked that thread, now everyone will see it for the nonsense it is, from that OP.
These sorts of "chemtrail" claims lack even basic sciences, and instead jump into a game of "connect-the-dots" that don't actually have any real connections.
Rampant, out-of-control paranoia at its worst, and people who don't know any better, and con't do the logic, get caught up in the frenzy of fear-mongering.
Dozens of times I have shown ATSers how to link to sites, online, that show real-time air traffic flights (in the continguous USA) that they can use to verify EVERY TIME they see a contrail, that it is indeed a normal, regualrtly scheduled commercial passenger jet, in most cases...could be a largish business jet, too, at altitude, making contrails.
These jets don't have special "tanks", nor equipment to "spray", for so many reasons, as I continually mention. There is nothing special about the jet fuel, either, as has been pointed out ad nauseum....
Finally, the actual scope and scale is insufficient to achieve what these "chemtrail" believers keep claiming!
Just look up HOW MUCH ASH was spewd in the Iceland eruption, and do the math!!
Really glad you linked that thread, now everyone will see it for the nonsense it is, from that OP.
These sorts of "chemtrail" claims lack even basic sciences, and instead jump into a game of "connect-the-dots" that don't actually have any real connections.
Rampant, out-of-control paranoia at its worst, and people who don't know any better, and con't do the logic, get caught up in the frenzy of fear-mongering.
Dozens of times I have shown ATSers how to link to sites, online, that show real-time air traffic flights (in the continguous USA) that they can use to verify EVERY TIME they see a contrail, that it is indeed a normal, regualrtly scheduled commercial passenger jet, in most cases...could be a largish business jet, too, at altitude, making contrails.
These jets don't have special "tanks", nor equipment to "spray", for so many reasons, as I continually mention. There is nothing special about the jet fuel, either, as has been pointed out ad nauseum....
Finally, the actual scope and scale is insufficient to achieve what these "chemtrail" believers keep claiming!
Just look up HOW MUCH ASH was spewd in the Iceland eruption, and do the math!!
reply posted on 6-5-2010 @ 05:43 PM by camelian
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by truthseeker1984
What you have, there, my friend, are photos of everyday, common contrails.
Then why don't they appear every day? I keep track of sky activity throughout the day, and for a period of about a week, ending with the day before yesterday, there was not a single "contrail" in the sky. Sometimes there are longer clear periods. If these were contrails, from regular, everyday planes going about on national, standardized flight paths, which hundreds of planes use day in and day out, then why are there sometimes periods of weeks where not a single "contrail" appears at all? Does that mean that air traffic over San Diego County has ceased? They are using different planes?
I happen to live in an area where there are tons of military planes and helicopters flying around. Also, there are several airports around me. I see tons of sky activity, including two sightings of orbs last year, witnessed by my family. (No, I don't have pictures, so if you're going to debunk me purely because I don't have proof, then go ahead.) There is only one kind of plane that ever makes "contrails." They are not commercial aircraft. I have witnessed them through my binoculars. They have no logos on them. They have three huge tanks attached to the bottom. They are completely white.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Take your head out, up and ways from the "chemtrail" nonsense sites, and do some real research, and learning.
So, in the face of my personal observations and learning, what have you gone out and done to confirm your suspicions that all of this is absolutely bogus?
Also, please watch this. All of it. I don't think you'd mind sacrificing a few minutes for some real research? This guy brought his camera into a privately owned airport that apparently does weather modification, through the spraying of these clouds, and got a pilot to talk about it.
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Because, eventually, you will learn the actual science, and will feel a little bit chagrined, for having been fooled.
Get ready to find yourself in a whirlwind of other worldly activity
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