Originally posted by SevenThunders
I think your difficulty is trying to make all the events of Revelation occur in chronological order. In fact many of the events overlap.
The seal judgements, bowl judgements and trumpet judgments are all clearly overlapping events. You can relate them via the clear descriptions of each
type of event.
Thank you for making this thoughtful contribution, and thank you for the link you provided. Unfortunately it takes me to a PDF file, and my browser
doesn't give me access to PDF files (I probably need to update).
I don't intend to be dogmatic about making all the events chronological.
For example, in a later thread (probably the third after this one), I expect to be describing the first half of ch12 as a "flashback" scene.
To me, the "Trumpets" are describing different aspects of God' judgements, so I see no reason why they need not be simultaneous. Similarly the
As for the Seals, I have already, in my "4 Horsemen- Running" thread, suggested that they would be active almost simultaneously as the different
components of one major catastrophe. I see the fifth and sixth seals as a contrasting pair of reactions to this event.
Nevertheless, I will still defend the existence of a basic chronological sequence, inasmuch as;
The Seals, as a group; are followed by
The Trumpets, as a group; which are followed by
The Bowls, as a group.
In the case of the latter two, it seems to me that the state of affairs under the Bowls represents a deterioration
of the state of affairs
under the Trumpets. The most obvious example is that of the sea, which degenearates from "a third of the sea became blood, a third of the living
creatues died" to "the sea became like the blood of a dead man, and all the living creatutes died." I pointed this out on the recent "Ch16v3"
thread, which associated the verse with the great oil spill (but nobody was taking any notice).
On that basis, I regard the Bowls as the final stage of the process commenced under the Trumpets.
As for the Seals;
A little earlier, I posted a link to my "Silence in Heaven" thread.
If you follow that link, you will find my argument that John is indicating (in ch8 v1) a clear interval between the dramatic events of ch6 and the
dramatic events of the Trumpets.
This is important, because, in my opinion, this interval is the setting for the rise of the Beast to power.