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Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!

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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by ppk55
 


Lets see it was a CIA project and camera systems were designed for it and companies like Kodak and General Electric did work on it.

Now as it was to replace U2 spy planes I dont think they would want lots of people to know about it.

I would think anyone on the project would have known what it was for.

Also after a U2 had been shot down do you really think they would say what it was.

Anyway ppk55 learned anything about photography yet!!!!!


What!?



Do you even know what your are talking about?
Its like you are just grabbing as much non-related facts as possible and "TADA !"
throwing them up in the air hoping they will all congregate into a point.

If NASA was going to fake a moon landing, would they want everyone one to know about?
No!
Was the CIA involved with NASA?
Yes!
Could Apollo and Gemini have been a public stunt to spy on the Soviets?
Yes!

I also grabbed facts from the air to make a point, but mine is more clear and probably true.
LOL.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by ppk55
 


Lets see it was a CIA project and camera systems were designed for it and companies like Kodak and General Electric did work on it.

Now as it was to replace U2 spy planes I dont think they would want lots of people to know about it.

I would think anyone on the project would have known what it was for.

Also after a U2 had been shot down do you really think they would say what it was.

Anyway ppk55 learned anything about photography yet!!!!!


What!?



Do you even know what your are talking about?
Its like you are just grabbing as much non-related facts as possible and "TADA !"
throwing them up in the air hoping they will all congregate into a point.

If NASA was going to fake a moon landing, would they want everyone one to know about?
No!
Was the CIA involved with NASA?
Yes!
Could Apollo and Gemini have been a public stunt to spy on the Soviets?
Yes!

I also grabbed facts from the air to make a point, but mine is more clear and probably true.

LO



I suggest you look at the ppk55 post the reply was FOR!!!!!!! It was for the Corona Spy Satellite you really can make yourself look dumb !!!!!.

No wonder photography seems like a black art to you


You posted just before me if you look.
edit on 31-1-2011 by wmd_2008 because: comment added



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008
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Yes we would navigate using the stars
when on the moons surface!
Yes and Astronauts paths visible on the DAC film and match shape on LRO image I bet that really ----ed JW off like it does YOU.

We have explained time and time again why the stars wouldn't couldn't show on pictures although it does seem to difficult for you to understand.

You have plenty of links re photography BUT you are obviously out of your depth when we talk about exposure etc.


Oh so now you are a saying its impossible to photograph stars from the moon.
Good, your opinion has been noted for the record.

Second, you are saying that its impossible to see stars from the moon.
Good, your opinion has been noted for the record.

Now lets move on to further matters, or does your knowledge of Apollo only extend to photography?

How can you crawl back out of a hole onto a ladder, and close the door behind you?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008


I suggest you look at the ppk55 post the reply was FOR!!!!!!! It was for the Corona Spy Satellite you really can make yourself look dumb !!!!!.

No wonder photography seems like a black art to you


You posted just before me if you look.
edit on 31-1-2011 by wmd_2008 because: comment added


You dont have to suggest anything.
I know what the post was about.
And you still make no sense.
Why did you even bother with that reply to PPK?



Please stop acting like you know what
you are talking about. You think you caught a fish
but all you did was hook the back of your collar. So dont pull too hard!!
We are not going to be fooled by your mumbo jumbo.

I know astrophotography is possible on the moon,
you dont think so, fine.
You want to believe a hodge-podge of pixels from LRO is proof of a moon landing,
they you have answered the basic tenet of, "how could NASA fool so many people so long?"
Simple, most people dont need much proof of anything to accept statements from authority or otherwise as fact.

"Dey sed dey went to da moon, den we went toda moon"
"I saw it on thad TV thingamajig."
"It was live, like it actually happened in dat box"
"But I wonder how dey made dose astronawts so small to fit in dat small box"
"Sckience I sappose"





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posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Oh so now you are a saying its impossible to photograph stars from the moon.
Good, your opinion has been noted for the record.

Second, you are saying that its impossible to see stars from the moon.
Good, your opinion has been noted for the record.

Now lets move on to further matters, or does your knowledge of Apollo only extend to photography?

How can you crawl back out of a hole onto a ladder, and close the door behind you?


No, that is not what he is saying, and you know it. No wonder Phil Plaitt refuses to talk to you. Fortunately, you only make yourself look bad when you insists on behaving like this. Is closing a hatch a genuine issue for you? Perhaps; you don't understand how light and shadow works, you don't understand photography, you don't understand gravitation, you don't understand project planning... it's as though you have no experience of the real world at all. The worst part is that you revel in your ignorance and pepper your pointless posts with LOLs, as though you've said something witty. I would pity you if it weren't for your intentionally obnoxious attitude. Now, please explain in the simplest possible terms why there are no stars visible in this picture:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8ed796767291.jpg[/atsimg]



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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A little tip for you Foosm so you dont look such a complete DH again were its says reply to a post by for example ppk55 if you had clicked on ppk55 it YOU would have been shown what I was replying to.

You then saw my post re YOUR STUPIDTY so its your usual change the subject tacic in the hope that people will not see how DUMB you have been.

As regard to photography lets see at NO point have I said it was impossible ONLY YOU do that to deflect from your obvious STUPIDITY! I have and others have given info on required exposures to expose stars on film or digital cameras JUST because you dont have the ability to grasp that is your problem and possibly the education system that taught you!

As for commments re this I have made comments about other subjects on this thread and on other threads.

So take your time dont rush and you may look brighter than you are!



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM


"Dey sed dey went to da moon, den we went toda moon"
"I saw it on thad TV thingamajig."
"It was live, like it actually happened in dat box"
"But I wonder how dey made dose astronawts so small to fit in dat small box"
"Sckience I sappose"





edit on 31-1-2011 by FoosM because: (no reason given)


To all who read this RACIST STATEMENT
ADMIN PLEASE NOTE!
edit on 31-1-2011 by wmd_2008 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM
How can you crawl back out of a hole onto a ladder, and close the door behind you?
With a handle.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by FoosM
How can you crawl back out of a hole onto a ladder, and close the door behind you?
With a handle.


You have to grab the handle prior to exiting.
How could he hold on to the "handle" when he needed both hands to crawl out of the LM?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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You have to grab the handle prior to exiting.
How could he hold on to the "handle" when he needed both hands to crawl out of the LM?


So now you're pitching your arguments to people who haven't learned how to crawl yet? FoosM, just give it up. It's just getting embarrassing for you.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM
You have to grab the handle prior to exiting.
How could he hold on to the "handle" when he needed both hands to crawl out of the LM?
Why would you have to grab the handle before exiting? Kneeling on all fours on the porch, you can use one hand to close the door.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by FoosM


"Dey sed dey went to da moon, den we went toda moon"
"I saw it on thad TV thingamajig."
"It was live, like it actually happened in dat box"
"But I wonder how dey made dose astronawts so small to fit in dat small box"
"Sckience I sappose"





edit on 31-1-2011 by FoosM because: (no reason given)


To all who read this RACIST STATEMENT
ADMIN PLEASE NOTE!
edit on 31-1-2011 by wmd_2008 because: (no reason given)



Please- please stop... its hard to type while Im laughing


Racist statement? Against what race?
Humans?

You know by you interpreting what I wrote as a racist statement, makes you a racist.
And anybody who starred your post as well. LOL.
You realize that right?
For the same reason you could have said that I was making fun of someone's religion.
But I guess you couldn't find a "shock" word for that.
Oh man we can see right through you WMD.

You better stick to finding support for the Apollo hoax.
Soon, people will want their money back.

So explain to us how NASA could send men to the moon, but fail at astrophotography?
Astrophotography done by amateurs on this planet with a much thicker atmosphere than the Moon.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by FoosM
You have to grab the handle prior to exiting.
How could he hold on to the "handle" when he needed both hands to crawl out of the LM?
Why would you have to grab the handle before exiting? Kneeling on all fours on the porch, you can use one hand to close the door.


Not while you are going down the ladder.
In a bulky space suit.
Where you cant look up to see where the door is.

And why would he even bother making the effort?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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So explain to us how NASA could send men to the moon, but fail at astrophotography?
Astrophotography done by amateurs on this planet with a much thicker atmosphere than the Moon.


This picture explains it all, doesn't it?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8ed796767291.jpg[/atsimg]



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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We wil see who ELSE thinks its racist then EH!!!

As for photography we have explained many times WHY with the cameras they had they could not film stars more to the point had they YOU would have used YOUR standard get out excuse its from NASA so we cant trust it.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM
Not while you are going down the ladder.
Why would they wait until they were on the ladder? They'd do it from the porch.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
 



You have to grab the handle prior to exiting.
How could he hold on to the "handle" when he needed both hands to crawl out of the LM?


So now you're pitching your arguments to people who haven't learned how to crawl yet? FoosM, just give it up. It's just getting embarrassing for you.


No its not, I think the photos were staged.
So I look for inconsistencies.
One that I noticed is the LM door being closed for no apparent reason at all.
What were they afraid of? Aliens stealing their LM and taking off?



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by FoosM
 


We wil see who ELSE thinks its racist then EH!!!

As for photography we have explained many times WHY with the cameras they had they could not film stars more to the point had they YOU would have used YOUR standard get out excuse its from NASA so we cant trust it.


No you have provided no proof that their Hasselblads could not take those types of photos.
All you have discussed are settings.
Do you claim that the Hasselblads could not do long exposures?

You claim the lens was limited but then you admit they brought other lenses.
So what it comes down to is, could the astronauts set their Hasselblads to long exposures to take photos of the heavens if they wanted to?

If you answer no, base it on facts.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by FoosM
One that I noticed is the LM door being closed for no apparent reason at all.
What were they afraid of? Aliens stealing their LM and taking off?
I would imagine it was for thermal and micrometeoroid reasons.



posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:12 PM
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So what it comes down to is, could the astronauts set their Hasselblads to long exposures to take photos of the heavens if they wanted to?

If you answer no, base it on facts.


What is your point? I could have nailed Mackenzie Phillips if I wanted to, but I didn't. The astronauts could have wasted valuable time and film taking pointless pictures of the stars but they didn't. SO WHAT? Now, please explain why there are no stars in this picture:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8ed796767291.jpg[/atsimg]




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