The Decline: The Geography of a Recession

We all know jobs are running out across America, but some people still don't know the extent of this decline. Some people may still have a job, so they may assume the problem is being exaggerated. Perhaps they don't have a job but assume the rest of the country can't be "that bad everywhere".

Whatever the case, I found this clip that shows the country-wide rate of unemployment, starting from January 2007 and leading up until now. It does a superb job of showing the viewer just how fast we are plummeting through a horrific job-holocaust

Take a look and be prepared to be shocked if you have not been following this decline closely. It really is "that bad" and it isn't getting any better any time soon.

Watching this clip really effected me...I hope you also find it as impressive and sobering as I did.

The Decline: The Geography of a Recession



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Wow, when its shown like that, month by month, slide by slide. Makes it feel alot more real. Makes me happy to still be employed.

reply to post by Mr Mask


That was kind of spooky watching that. It almost looked like a sinister virus was spreading across the nation.

Originally posted by Striker122
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

That was kind of spooky watching that. It almost looked like a sinister virus was spreading across the nation.

that is EXACTLY what it is !!!
Star for u

A virus that will kill America
with no antidote

Over 90% of the people who want to work are employed. Not bad USA!!!

Originally posted by Striker122
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

That was kind of spooky watching that. It almost looked like a sinister virus was spreading across the nation.

I agree...

I've been setting up for a collapse for a very long time now. I can only hope that if one comes, that I will have enough supplies and luck to survive it.

Some say it is hopeless to try to survive what is coming.

Some say nothing is coming at all.

I say, watch that clip and get 17 gallons of fresh water "per member of house hold" and more food then you can shake a rifle at.

But hey...what do I know? I'm a wacky conspiracy guy who is imagining the fall of America in my paranoid head.

Yeah...

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Striker122
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

That was kind of spooky watching that. It almost looked like a sinister virus was spreading across the nation.

that is EXACTLY what it is !!!
Star for u

A virus that will kill America
with no antidote

The antidote is war my friend. WWI, WWII were both preceeded by huge economic disasters, do you think this one is different?

We are not about to collapse because of the unemployment situation. This is not to say we won't collapse for other reasons though. Just look at Spain, they have been sitting around 19% unemployment for a year now and they have not collapsed. We are HALF of that and only for about half a year.

The map is scary because everyone I know is either unemployed of part time. But in reality about 60% of the workforce is still employed.(I know you probably don't understand how I got 60% but I'm talking about the overall employment and not everyone works even if they can.)

Hate to say this and I know that I will be called a racist but look where the higher and earlier areas of unemployment were... boarder states and west coast. Perfect example of the impact of illegal aliens have had on the job market. It was seen earlies in the nurserys then in construction, fast food...the list goes on. If we sent every illegal alien back to mexico our unemployment would be fixed...the only problem with this answer is that the jobs wouldnt be exactly what the unemployed US citizen would want.

The sad fact is that we brought this on ourselves...shipping jobs out of the country, outsourcing and contracting with companys across the boarders...now we have a mess that our government is unwilling to do anything about because the current administration is too busy wanting to make the millions of illegals "legal" and voters!

Watch out now here comes the cap and trade bills and the soon to be realised immigration reform bills.

In 5 years or less our economy will be completely tanked...our cities will resemble mexico city, and respect for law non-existant.

Originally posted by Longtimegone
Over 90% of the people who want to work are employed. Not bad USA!!!

"That big ol' building was the textile mill
It fed our kids and it paid our bills.
But they turned us out and they closed the doors.
We can't make it here anymore

See all those pallets piled up on the loading dock?
They're just gonna set there till they rot.
'Cause there's nothing to ship, nothing to pack,
Just busted concrete and rusted tracks,
Empty storefronts around the square,
There's a needle in the gutter and glass everywhere,
You don't come down here 'less you're looking to score --
We can't make it here anymore.

Some have maxed out all their credit cards,
Some are working two jobs and living in cars
Minimum wage won't pay for a roof, won't pay for a drink
If you gotta have proof, just try it yourself, Mr. CEO
See how far $5.15 an hour will go.
Take a part time job at one of your stores --
Bet you can't make it here anymore.

Now I'm stocking shirts in the Wal-Mart store,
Just like the ones we made before.
'Cept this one came from Singapore.
I guess we can't make it here anymore.

We'll work for food,
We'll die for oil.
We'll kill for power, and to us the spoils.
The billionaires get to pay less tax,
The working poor get to fall through the cracks.
So let 'em eat jellybeans, let 'em eat cake,
Let 'em eat sh$%, whatever it takes.
They can join the Air Force, or join the Corps
If they can't make it here anymore."

=James McMurtry, "We Can't Make It Here Anymore."

I was listening to the economy news on the radio ( The Netherlands ) where they discussed it for a while.
They said that there is in fact a major grow in the world.
Only this time it's not America that pulled the wagon. The Asian markets like China and Singapore are and the South American markets are. With grow rate going right up to 8,10,even 14 %.

Is this also spoken about in America ?

reply to post by Sinter Klaas


Anything that is considered threatening to the state is not talked about. Except for ATS, Prison Planet, Coast to Coast radio, etc... Our news people would never want us to know anything bad about our country. We have a very strong and old form of propaganda that is so finely implanted in our society it would take a genius to figure it out and and idiot to expose it.

So I guess i'm a smart idiot.

Just a friendly reminder that the actual unemployment rate is 18.8% as of yesterday...



Take the two circled numbers and figure it. Actual unemployment divided by U.S workforce.

[edit on 19-4-2010 by unityemissions]

reply to post by Misoir


Yes I've noticed some indoctrinated views from Us members.
Especially when you bring up the word socialism or communism.

Sky gets dark. The atmosphere dampends, eyes turn red and ears are starting to whistle do to the steam coming out.

After that a hell breaks loose.

Y'know, for years now I have been telling people about the economy collapsing. It was reported way back in the early 90s that this was coming...but nobody was really listening.

Now, today people seem more agreeable about the country completely collapsing, and what was once people saying-

"That can never happen".

has now changed to

"Everyone knows where this is going and it isn't good".

I stopped arguing with people about it about two years ago. Now I just let people who are oblivious or "late to agree" just think everything is super-ok and that the dollar will miraculously turn around.

But even though I no longer go screaming about the sky falling...I now notice that everyone else seems to be screaming it.

I guess on one hand, that is a good thing that so many folks are opening their eyes.

But of course...if somehow this all corrects itself (and I can not see how), then I will not be alone in feeling a bit silly the day the dollar bounces back.

Thanks for your comments, stars and flags...

The comments feed my mind.

The stars fuel my space-ship.

And the flags just look cool flapping in the wind when I fly by!

Originally posted by Longtimegone
Over 90% of the people who want to work are employed. Not bad USA!!!

90% of people who want to work are employed?

I don't understand how you think that is true.

Was this a typo or a joke? Or do you really think only 10% of people unemployed are currently seeking/wanting work?


If you really think that...I hope you snap out of it soon.

If I misunderstood your point, I'm sorry. Forums seem to muddle many points.

reply to post by Mr Mask


It's not the same thing. Let's say there's a workforce potential of 180 million, and only 150 million want to work. 90% would be 135 million. So actually it would be 1/3 of the people who are unemployed that want to work in this scenario.

Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

It's not the same thing. Let's say there's a workforce potential of 180 million, and only 150 million want to work. 90% would be 135 million. So actually it would be 1/3 of the people who are unemployed that want to work in this scenario.

I'll admit to being ignorant with all subjects of math...so forgive me for looking at that post and dazing out into my own stupidity.

Alls I know is that my state is dying. Everyone is jobless. Huge places of work all closed last year, and the entire state is rampant with people seeking work.

I am in Connecticut. Hardly the state you would expect to be crawling with the unemployed...but here we are.

It is a disaster here...like a giant job-bomb took out all the work.

It is really hard to watch so many people worrying about "getting any kind of job".

The clip in my OP is just the visual icing on the miserable cake that this thread is all about.

I wonder how many of you can report of epic joblessness in your states.

Is it apparent? Is it dire?

If so...name your state and tell me about it.

[edit on 19-4-2010 by Mr Mask]

reply to post by Mr Mask


Not a problem in the least. I admit to be dull in many subjects, but math and sciences isn't one of them.

I'm in Texas, DFW area. It seemed to not effect this area too much until just recently. There's still jobs here, but many are starting to be quite concerned. I've been flippant and telling people for years just how bad it is in other states, but most people are apathetic. Most reply with something generic like, "I'm worried about me and my own, if we're okay, then it's okay" or, "I go to work everyday and I don't see it". Quite frustrating interacting with these clueless folks.

My smpathies go to you and the families who are struggling within your state, and in any other. Much like you, I was enraged, very vocal, and even borderlining psychosis when I first realized how dire the situation was (2006-2008) and how most people couldn't see it and thought of me as crazy. Now, same as you, I'm mostly taking a back seat, and realizin that it's a vein attempt to try and change peoples minds. They will only be convinced when it comes to their neighborhood.

To be entirely honest, I called the collapse years ago when I didn't have a clue (still don't really) how the markets worked or what was going on. I just looked around, literally looked at people, what they were doing, how insane the system had become, and how it couldn't go on forever. I remember telling my immediate family, there will be two or three cashes within the decade, and the last will be complete collapse. This was 2003 or 2004. I've got no proof, but whatever. Just a moment of genius intuition, I guess. I'm often wrong as well, but this one, I had a very strong feeling about.

Okay, I feel the need to elaborate just a little more because what I wrote may seem to have a contradiction. In 2003-2004, I both saw through society, and internal visualzation, that collapse was immenent. What I didn't realize at that time, was that people wouldn't be metally, emotionaly, and physically preparred for the logistics of this collapse. I thought people would wake up soon. In 2007, I realized that what was incredibly obvious to myself, was largely ignored by most other people. This is why I went beserk, because I knew through this ignorance, much suffering would occur. Make sense now?

[edit on 19-4-2010 by unityemissions]

reply to post by unityemissions


First off, thanks for replying. Star for your well constructed post and the insight into the Texas situation (at least in your area).

Here in Connecticut, nobody gave a damn about any of this until they closed or relocated many of the key businesses here.

Like the Hershey factory (old Cadbury building) that once made Almond Joys (the only building to EVER produce the candy since its creation). When that fell, it was a sign of bad times to come.

Car dealerships went about the same time.

Many factories followed.

Now people are all hoping to get a Wal-Mart job or taking whatever the temp agencies are giving out. It is pretty creepy seeing so many people so desperate, and it is much worse in other states.

I dunno...I am preparing for very hard times and telling others to do the same. Less people call me crazy these days, but then again as I mentioned above, I tell less people now that I see things getting to the boiling point.

Can I be wrong in assuming a collapse is emanate? Sure, anyone can be wrong about anything.

Do I think I am wrong? No...surly not after seeing how much money has been thrown down the toilet, all the money that evaporated from the stock market in the past three years, and all the bailouts...I just don't see how a currency returns from such an epic fall.

So yeah...I hear you and send my best wishes to you and all the folks down south. If crap hits the fan, I may be looking to relocate down there where people seem a bit intent on keeping their rights and staying free.

Thanks again for the reply. It was thought provoking.