The Big Immigration Conspiracy-Going on right now!

This is not a news story-but there will be links but rather what I finally saw and woke up to. The Big Immigration Conspriacy. I was getting info together for a post on another thread [Look how much money you (we) spend on illegals aliens!!!
www.abovetopsecret.com...] and I came across this opinion paper that was published in the American Ideological Society by Boris Tiraspolsky (no date): Solving the Problem of Illegal Immigration American Way...
(You can read it, very interesting points made: Source: www.americanideologicalsociety.com...
The eye catcher at the begining laid out the premise of his paper:
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I thought, hmmm, civil unrest-don't have to-it's coming politically by the looks of things. No sense risking a Sure Thing by getting up in everyone faces and rubbing it in-Right? Then you see these four startling images of recent events this year the show just how important of the issue of Immigration is-to the Spanish population(s) who are already in the USA; Legally or not.
The East Coast:
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L.A. (West Coast):
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Texas:
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and Florida:
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All saying the same thing: [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/07417cb69a33.jpg[/atsimg]

We aren't criminals, Give us a chance at a better life!

Here is why I posted this. It finally hit me that there has been an unprecedented attack on the American way of life-as we once knew it. But, here is the thing-It worked on me. I surrender.

From that posting I put up about all the money to the Illegals etc to this My Surrender this late morning-something happened. While I was out to the store I drove past two sets of Spanish ladies with their kids-heading to the local school. I saw a few vehicles with Spanish roofing and contracting crews heading towards jobs. You get the picture. But in case you don't.

They already here-trying to get a better life. And for the majority that is exactly what they set out to do. Not throw over the US Gov't and turn the USA back into Mexico property. I have no major crime in my area.

Matter of fact, we have mostly full houses and apartment buildings-with a local factory that just confirmed a multi-year order!!! Why, because the hard labor of these Spanish decent people-for the most part. I know these people worked their butts off at this plant and they deserve most of the credit.

Well now, from the little micro world of anon72 to the big picture. Something now wants me to say how dare we deny these people assistance-Time for less war and more taking care of the USA. The returns the country could get is enormous-IF DONE CORRECTLY. No make them totally dependent on the Gov't from the get-go.

Don't make it a Republican or Democrate thing. This is the future of America and we better open up our eyes and our arms and give them a Big Old American HELLO!
Otherwise, with that many people wanting change for a better life-they'll get it one way or another. And we can't do it out of fear but because it is right.

Otherwise: We could have this on our hands and honestly-I just don't have the stomach for this possibility. We need to use our heads: [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/dc6de19c8284.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 4/19/2010 by anon72]

Where I live when you read a story about a home invasion, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about shootouts between rival gangs, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about chop shops getting busted, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about car jacking, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about serial rapists, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about people being kidnapped and held for ransom, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about houses full of drugs being used as a warehouse/distribution center, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about cars being stolen and driven across the border to Mexico, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Where I live when you read a story about identity theft, it is illegal aliens doing it.

Americans are so xenophobic.

Hey OPs
Welcome to the slow side of liberal thinking

on topic now. The immigration issue, in my opinion, is not that latins desire to come into this country...and I never even considered some people think they are trying to expand mexico or whatever the fringe believe...the biggest problem is a actual broken immigration system. America is a good mix of cultures all melding into a ever shifting and changing dynamic and all cultures should be welcome, knowing they will never "take over" the melting pot.

The problem with illegals are just that...they are illegal. They need to get a card, and a proper wage going, else they are bound to do anything to survive...be it pushing drugs, robbing, etc. When you see a group of illegals, dont get angry at them, they are simply doing as anyone else would...try to get a better life. Be angry at a broken and slow immigration policy. America is pretty big...we got room...and the more people we have in America, the more we produce, pay in taxes, and build up this nation...
Short of simply buying Mexico and calling them another state, then what needs to happen is obviously a massive uptick in legal immigration procedures.

Legalize marijuana. If you outlaw marijuana, only outlaws will sell marijuana. Get these people legal citizenship so they can start paying taxes. Get these people legal citizenship so they can get gainfully employed and stop committing crimes.

The immigrant issue is being used to procure cheap labor for select corporations that never suffer or get prosecuted for using illegal immigrants in their businesses and the second reason I believe the immigrant issue is being fueled to intentionally anger the American populace to keep Americans divided and clueless as to what is really going on.

By creating a group of immigrants that Americans can openly hate, it provides the Democrats a mission to save the hated immigrants while keeping the Democrats involved in the immigrant process and all legislation that applies to the immigrants. The Obama regime wants to be poverty pimps and we are seeing clearly how they go about achieving that goal.

These are the same invited immigrants that on one hand they vilify and on the other they welcome with open arms and then legislate laws according to that divisive plan so as to intentionally infuriate and or anger as many Americans as possible. This last part is working well because even though these stupid laws help the immigrants, it is the hospitals, doctors and the pharmaceutical companies that are getting rich off of the stupid legislation that helps immigrants while it excludes Americans.

While this deception has worked well, not enough emphasis or blame has been placed on those corrupt politicians that legislate stupid laws to allow the immigrants to receive the health benefits and other social benefits that they apply to receive once they get to America. It is the Communist, Socialist, Democratic politicians that have created this fiasco and of course they have a plan to fix it. Yeah right.

The Obama regime aggressively advertises for 650k workers in Mexico and have been invited by Obama himself to come here, get work visas and get involved in all the federal government building projects that are being promoted to get immigrants to come to work in America. Those projects include prisons and FEMA camps and underground facilities. How thoughtful of the Obama regime to invite immigrants to build the infrastructure for a communist takeover whereby all belligerent citizens are rounded up and then imprisoned because of political affiliation or because of any disagreement with what the Obama regime wants to pursue for the sake of their new world order.

On one hand we blame the immigrants for enormous health care costs and all of the other social programs that the immigrants use, but for too many, no one ever looks at the cause of this problem. The problem of immigrants having too many benefits that Americans don't qualify for have been designed by American politicians that are doing what they are doing to nurture a group of immigrants that could potentially become voters.

The Obama regime wants to have as many loyal slaves as possible for future use as Democratic voters to the party even after Obama declares himself the dictator that he so openly wants to become. Anyway, the immigrant issue is a contrived deception that is intended to keep Americans divided while allowing for only a select group of American businessmen to make filthy profits off of the current illegal immigrant system. This whole process is corrupt and most that can think have come to realize this fact.

The only conspiracy going on in regard to the immigrants is the fact that too many politicians don't get the credit for the system being so messed up with all the legislation that caters to the illegals while excluding hard working Americans.

Thanks for the posting.

I have no problems with immigrants. However those doing it illegally even just to find a better life are systematically ruining things for those around them. It's a hard problem to think about let alone solve.

The Nazi's led a campaign to expel Jews and other groups from Germany.

How is this any different?

Just provides the criminals with all they need to kick down doors in America.

Originally posted by Yazman
Americans are so xenophobic.

You have no clue what you're talking about. I'm a legal Hispanic immigrant, barring a few instances, I've felt quite welcome the 20 years I've been here.

I don't want illegal immigrants. I want them to do what I did, walk through the freakin' front door!!!

reply to post by SaturnFX


I know, I know. But come on. Most of these people in those photos are not the criminal types. They are normal every day people. Yes, there is a certain segment of it's make up that is problematic-but us continuing to deny the hard working ones a chance when our country and business benifit greatly from them-is just wrong.

As I said, we need to do it right and use our heads. Fear isn't going to help. That would include penalities/arrest/fines etc for the non-coforming criminals. More prisons, more jobs, etc etc. A big money maker all the way around-IF done right.

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I'm all for immigration reform. Lord knows that with the way Hollywood is molding our kids, we have way less hands shooting up for "Doctor!" and "Engineer!" during "What I Want To Be" day in Kindergarten and more "Actor!" and "Miley Cyrus!" We have people who want to make money but produce money. I for one think it is sad that a police officer makes way less than a B-list actor while risking his life and all. These immigrants don't want to be here and sell drugs though. I work with and talk to them on a daily basis. They want to be here, get their family a better life through hard work. If they can't find work, they turn to the streets. Some break out and get a job, others get killed, but the vast majority DO NOT do anything wrong, except for the fact that they were born five feet across a "border". I know people who work grueling hours (12+) a day, with substandard safety equipment, in substandard conditions, for substandard pay JUST so their son can go on the next field trip, or have a third set of clothes for school. Incidentally, their children tend to work harder in school. Sadly, with their parents working so much, they lose parental figures and more easily turn to the streets and gangs, too.

reply to post by groingrinder


What a joke. Prove it! I live in freckin Los Angeles! Hotbed of illegal immigrants and it's never always only immigrants committing crimes. Get a life, some brains and a heart dude.

Originally posted by 12.21.12
The Nazi's led a campaign to expel Jews and other groups from Germany.

How is this any different?

Jews were the German citizens.

Originally posted by projectvxn

Originally posted by Yazman
Americans are so xenophobic.

You have no clue what you're talking about. I'm a legal Hispanic immigrant, barring a few instances, I've felt quite welcome the 20 years I've been here.

I don't want illegal immigrants. I want them to do what I did, walk through the freakin' front door!!!

It looks like you are 20 years old! I doubt that it was you personally who did it all on your own. Please don't take credit for something you didn't do.

Amnesty for illegal immigrants is the Lefts way of solidifying their decaying voter base. The voter base they have pandered to about the benefits of welfare are waking up to the fact that the welfare is nothing but shackles on personal freedom.

Originally posted by 12.21.12
The Nazi's led a campaign to expel Jews and other groups from Germany.

How is this any different?

Just provides the criminals with all they need to kick down doors in America.

and look at them now...
They have it made..

Originally posted by 12.21.12
The Nazi's led a campaign to expel Jews and other groups from Germany.

How is this any different?

Just provides the criminals with all they need to kick down doors in America.

The funny thing to me is that these so called illegals will be some of the first people to step up and help "us" defend against "them" when the shtf.. they are our neighbors, the little guy struggling to make ends meat just like many of us. Also like us they have local friends and family to protect and assuredly wont be running to assist "them".. but siding with "us", the people, in the streets.

Many of these people live in our world and are waking up to the 2-party DC mafia game just like we are.. the proto fascist GOP/DNC power structure infringes on them as well.. they get screwed over more than anyone at DUI checkpoints, raids & other police state activities..

As I see it lots of people will be welcoming their help when the time comes, rather than bitching & moaning.. we'll be glad there are millions upon millions of these resourceful folks willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with US citizens when the time comes... when tshtf a lot of haters will wake up and realize "illegals" are just your fellow man who lives here, and will stand up to tyranny & oppression like anyone else.

reply to post by prionace glauca


I don't think the majority will be a drain on the system. In fact they will be a huge influx of funds into the system. Again, if done right.

Sure, if given the opportunities, they will bring people who will go on to be doctors, nurses, fireman, police, factory workers, members of the military, etc.

But if we start fighting them and dening them the basic of life when they contribute to the employers making money. Again It's just wrong.

Our country has changed-right before our eyes and to deny it only prolongs the final outcome. Guess they rembember teh Alamo too.....

This country is on a collision course, just like the van in this video and take note of what happens when it finally crashes.

reply to post by conspiracy88


I'm 25 and I was a political refugee. I did all of my own paper work. What's your point exactly?