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reply posted on 16-4-2010 @ 10:38 PM by LegendaryHero
reply to post by Ashtree



Basically the more money we print out and make the less the money is worth. This causes inflation.


reply posted on 16-4-2010 @ 11:39 PM by hawkiye
The answer to your question is yes they can and they do.

You should study pre WWII Germany Weimer Republic and Zimbabwe.

Here is a brief explanation. if you have an economy based on 1 million dollars. nd you print another 1 million and introduce it into the economy you just diluted your money supply by 50% now all those dollars are worth 50 cents because you now have twice the money chasing the same amount goods and services so prices rise to compensate for it that is inflation.

The kicker is government is the first to get the money and spend it before the prices have risen so they get all thier goods and services at the lower priced before the money gets to you and dilutes the economy causing inflation. So if you have 10,000 in the bank it can now only buy 5000 worth of goods and services that it did before the inflation. So they just stole 50% of you accumulated wealth.

The bankers love this kind of expansion cause they know prices will rise so they buy all the positions in the stock market and in real estate to get rich off the rising prices. So you see it's a fixed scheme. They buy low then inflate the economy and sell high then delfate some and buy again then re inflate etc. Now days they don't need to print as much a lot of it is book entries on a computer. so it easier to inflate and deflate. Their main source of this is contrived loans and mortgages. They are created out of thin air with a computer book entry.

Of course eventually they dilute the economy so much that people can no longer afford to buy period IOW they have priced themselves out of the market. So they contract the money supply some to get prices to drop and then rinse and repeat. But they never contract the economy to where it previously was they maybe pull 10-15% out till it gets moving again. They do this to keep the illusion that prices will always go up so people keep investing in all their schemes. Look at all the people runing around buying depreciated real estate thinking its going to come back better then ever.

That's why 100 years ago things that cost a dime now cost several dollars. The over all trend is always up and but they can only do this so long and it all collapses. That is why they call it a bubble. You can only blow a balloon up so much before it pops. This one is about to pop for good.

But people think oh it will come back it always does because of the contrived over all up trend. These last few little contractions are signs of the strain and it will pop one of these times for good. In the meantime who ends up with all the property and debt holdings? The banks of course who are all agent banks for the Federal Reserve and their IMF masters and he people are screwed as usual.

And they will put a new dress and different color lipstick on the same scheme and try and sell it again to the people telling them they have to mke some sacrifies

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reply posted on 17-4-2010 @ 02:45 AM by Rockpuck
reply to post by Ashtree



The government does indeed print money. It also burns money (literally) .. every year billions are taken out of circulation, and billions more printed.. the difference = inflation (or deflation, though deflation is very rare and only occures through economic contraction, not the Government not printing money.)

The US however does not "print" perse the entire amount we here as a deficit. The amount we actually print doesnt very to much, and is set by Congress/Treasury.

The number one way that we print money is through the Auction of Treasuries. This is a better method than printing because innitial capital originates from current cash.. the only amount "printed" technically speaking is the obligation, the interest rate.

But the single largest source of "printing" never gets printed at all .. it's called Fractional Reserve Banking. A bank, with a deposit, can loan out a large ratio of dollars to the amount in deposit (for instance, say 10 dollars can be loaned for every 1 dollar) .. if the ratio is relaxed and isn't watched, especially when interest rates are low.. we see a massive influx in "wealth" .. the number of Dollars expands even though the Gov never printed it... in effect, every bank prints however much it wants. As long as no one pulls their csah, every things fine.

A currency backed by Gold still has it's ratio change (dollar per ounce) .. effectively, the Gov still prints money. That is the way with all currencies.


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 12:23 AM by ghostsoldier
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I recommend watching atleast the part of Zietgiest: Addendum when they are talking about the monetary system we use. Its a total sham.



Its just a massive pyramid scheme, wealth goes to the top, and the debt accumulated gets passed down the chain to the third world.
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