The Apollo 11 press conference after the trip to the moon that always surprised me.

Watching this video of the Apollo 11 press conference after the trip to the moon always strikes me.

The very clear visible unhappy and uncomfortable appearance and behavior of these three men during that press conference made every time I see it a deep but unbelievable sad impression on me.

Are these the same guys, in fact real heroes, which went to the moon, land on the moon and safely returned back to Earth?

Then look to their faces.

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The astronauts seem highly agitated, almost belligerent in some of their facial gestures and attitudes, like they were under duress and being forced to say some things that they knew weren't true - and also NOT to say some things they might have really wanted to share very badly with the gathered press corp but couldn't.

Why do they act threatened and under duress and give each other troubled, furtive glances? Why does Neil Armstrong stammer and choke as he tries his best to give rehearsed, pat answers to simple questions about their experience of being the first humans to land on the moon?

Could it be about something very STRANGE they witnessed or something UNEXPECTED that happened on the moon?

Could it - as some have posited - been because they didn't really go to the moon but helped the U.S. Government STAGE the whole thing?

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Look at the faces of the same guys before their trip to the moon, a really almost unbelievable, heroic but no doubt dangerous mission.


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Name of Image: Apollo 11 Astronauts During Press Conference

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Apollo 11 crew members (L-R) Edwin Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Michael Collins were amused by a question posed during a closed circuit press conference the night before they began their historic first lunar landing mission. The press conference with questions via intercom, was held under semi-isolation conditions to avoid exposing the astronauts to possible illness at the last minute.

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Here is the video of the whole Apollo 11 press conference.

Watch the clip for yourself and see what you think and feel about their looks, body language and stilted, choppy, very carefully worded speeches. What do you feel is really going on here behind the scenes and in their heads? Looking back on it all now 37 years later, doesn't it just about feel there's a gun pointed at their heads?

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Then another remarkable happening, look for instance to Neil Armstrong's cryptic speech at the 25th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission in which he said.

"There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers".



So, could it indeed be about something very STRANGE they witnessed or something UNEXPECTED that happened on the moon?

Or could it indeed be as some have posited - been because they didn't really go to the moon but helped the U.S. Government STAGE the whole thing

Or [my personal thoughts] could it indeed be about something very STRANGE they witnessed or something UNEXPECTED that happened on the moon which was UFO/ET related and they were forbidden to ever talk about it?

Or, as always possible, could there be a much more simple explanation for it all?

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I have heard all kinds of explanations about why they act the way they had.

But what is interesting is that they talked to no one, [with in reason] except debrief people for 3 weeks after the trip, while they were quarentined.

Now it looks like they had a script to follow, in front of them, correcting themselves numerous times.

Its like they were under orders to state what they did, ohh yes they were in fact UNDER ORDERS right? National Security and DoD.....



It has always had my interest why they act this way?

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The physical and psychological strain of a Moon mission is bound to tell. Expecting these guys to come back with the energy to put on a show is bordering on ridiculous. 8 days of stress & excitement and they look tired...

Not to mention...it had to be frustrating, as by this time, the moon flights were more "routine" and not near as "exciting" to the public as the first one...

Even in the movie Apollo 13, you see this...where the astronauts think the report is being aired, when it really isn't.....

Originally posted by Kandinsky
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The physical and psychological strain of a Moon mission is bound to tell. Expecting these guys to come back with the energy to put on a show is bordering on ridiculous. 8 days of stress & excitement and they look tired...

Right, but look to these dates, don’t you think either that such a time period would be enough for giving them the opportunity to regain at least most of their strength back for such a press conference?

Apollo 11
Returned to Earth; July 24, 1969

Apollo 11
Post-Flight press conference; August 12, 1969 Houston, Texas


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Bart Sibrel is a "master" of out of context clips and quotes. He takes those moments and tells his viewers what is "really" being said. He is a jackass who deserved what Aldrin gave him. If I ever bump into him on the street I might do the same.

Here is the full text of Armstrong's speech. His purpose was to inspire a group of students to continue the exploration of space.

Thank you, Mr. Vice President, Mr. President, members of Congress, fellow astronauts, ladies and gentlemen.

Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that cold talk was the parrot, and he didn't fly very well. So I'll be brief. This week America has been recalling the Apollo program and reliving the memories of those times in which so many of us here, colleagues here in the first rows, were immersed. Our old astrogeology mentor, Gene Shoemaker, even called in one of his comets to mark the occasion with spectacular Jovian fireworks. And reminding us once again of the power and consequence of celestial extracurricular activities.

Many Americans were part of Apollo, about one or two in each thousand citizens, all across the country. They were asked by their country to do the impossible--to envisage the design and to build a method of breaking the bonds of earth's gravity and then sally forth to visit another heavenly body. The principal elements--leaving earth, navigating in space and descending to a planet unencumbered with runways and traffic control--would include major requirements necessary for a space-faring people.

Today a space shuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased our knowledge of our universe a thousand-fold.

Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are many places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours--in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny.

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Aren't you convinced that the Apollo 11 crew saw an alien spacecraft on the way to the Moon?

According to Sibrel, Apollo 11 never left low Earth orbit. You can't have it both ways.



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Originally posted by spacevisitor

Originally posted by Kandinsky
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The physical and psychological strain of a Moon mission is bound to tell. Expecting these guys to come back with the energy to put on a show is bordering on ridiculous. 8 days of stress & excitement and they look tired...

Right, but look to these dates, don’t you think either that such a time period would be enough for giving them the opportunity to regain at least most of their strength back for such a press conference?

Apollo 11
Returned to Earth; July 24, 1969

Apollo 11
Post-Flight press conference; August 12, 1969 Houston, Texas

The guys weren't relaxing. They were still working under a full schedule...

* REPORTER You are now national heroes and you've had a couple of weeks in isolation in the LRL to think about that. What are your initial feelings about being heroes? How do you believe it will change your lives and do you think that maybe you'll get another chance to go to the Moon or are you going to be too busy being heroes?

* ARMSTRONG Probably to get an answer to that question we might have to spend as long preparing as we had to prepare for Apollo 11. In the Lunar Receiving Laboratory we had very little time for meditation, as it turned out, we were quite busy throughout the time period with the same sort of things that the crews of past flights have done after their flights. The debriefing schedules and writing the pilot reports and getting all the facts down for the use of all the people who will include that in the future flights.

The First Lunar Landing PART VI

R&R didn't start until they opened the door to their own homes, laid down and talked to the family

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Thanks so much for finding that. What a difference the entire speech in context makes. The reference to "truth's protective layers" points more to mysteries that are yet undiscovered, like the true nature of nature, or a cure for cancer, rather than something that is already known and being kept away.

Originally posted by Phage
Bart Sibrel is a "master" of out of context clips and quotes. He is a jackass who deserved what Aldrin gave him. If I ever bump into him on the street I might do the same.

I saw the whole speech in this video below and I posted that small part only for the easiness for others to see/hear what Neil said regarding those truth protecting layers.

You can say about Bart Sibrel what you want, but that doesn’t matter for what Neil said.

Apollo 11 25th Anniversary
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Bye the way, for as far if you are interested in this, this is what I said about Buzz punching him publicly on the nose.

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Here is the entire press conference. There are a number of relaxed, joking moments and discussions of technical aspects, as well as introspective reflections about the significance of the accomplishment.

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You posted an extract from A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the Moon by Bart Sibrel. If you are aware of the full speech then you are just as guilty as he is of taking the statement out of context.

Originally posted by Phage
Aren't you convinced that the Apollo 11 crew saw an alien spacecraft on the way to the Moon?

Can you show me here where I said that?

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In this thread:
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Originally posted by spacevisitor

I checked it and you are right here, he said indeed 99,999, but I still going to cling to the one thousandth of a percent of his uncertainty because I wonder why he did not say that it was 100%.

Originally posted by spacevisitor


That is exactly the point Arbitrageur, because you said “they thought they were looking at a piece of the space craft” and that “they kept seeing different shapes which didn't seem to match the panel shape”, it is also very well possible that they saw and where followed by something else then a piece of the space craft.

And because of the today’s available evidence for an Extraterrestrial presence here you cannot rule out the possibility that it could have been a UFO/ET craft in my opinion.

You sound pretty convinced to me. But maybe I misunderstood.

I think...

They were upset not because they didn't actually travel to the moon, but because of the experience they had while getting there.

"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone There was constant surveillance by UFOs" - Scott Carpenter, 1962

"It followed us during half of our orbit. We observed it on the light side, and when we entered the shadow side, it disappeared completely. It was an engineered structure..." - Victor Afanasyev, 1979

"For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists and astronauts..." - Gordon Cooper, 1963

Originally posted by Phage
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Originally posted by spacevisitor

I checked it and you are right here, he said indeed 99,999, but I still going to cling to the one thousandth of a percent of his uncertainty because I wonder why he did not say that it was 100%.

Originally posted by spacevisitor


That is exactly the point Arbitrageur, because you said “they thought they were looking at a piece of the space craft” and that “they kept seeing different shapes which didn't seem to match the panel shape”, it is also very well possible that they saw and where followed by something else then a piece of the space craft.

And because of the today’s available evidence for an Extraterrestrial presence here you cannot rule out the possibility that it could have been a UFO/ET craft in my opinion.

You sound pretty convinced to me. But maybe I misunderstood.

You obviously said at least something that wasn’t true.

But I definitely not rule out that possibility.

They don't look tired, they look agitated and pissed off. You can count the number of times on one hand that either one of them cracked a smile during that press conference. The "hero" comment obviously pisses off Armstrong - like something which eats away at him.

From the uncomfortable actions of these guys during the press conference, they obviously act like it finally set in on them that they were played big time. Of course, they were obviously pissed as hell that it was now their responsibility to sell this snowjob, although it was obviously not their decision to conceive it. No amount of money or accolades can compensate for being propped up as a false hero - unless of course one is a slimy politician type with no scruples.

There is no way of knowing whether or not these guys went to the moon. Heck, it could be anyone inside of those spacesuits and the setting could be anywhere as well. There were also people in '69 saying the whole thing was a hoax. Of course, these voices were drowned out by all the hoopla.

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I find it interesting that conspiretards like to cherry-pick from a press conference after the guys have spent 3 weeks in quarantine, but never want to show us images from right after they returned from the mission:

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Originally posted by spacevisitor
Or, as always possible, could there be a much more simple explanation for it all?

Yes I do believe so.

Having spent 8 days travelling to the Moon and back in a small cramped spaceship, which I'm sure was fun, but also exhausting. Then after arriving back home, only to spend the next 3 weeks in quarantine. I wouldn't be in the most jovial mood after all that either.

I don't get the impression that they look sad or upset at all. They just look serious to me. It's a formal press conference after all. What do you guys expect them to be like? And not everyone is comfortable being up in front of an audience either.

Plus there are plenty of photos and video of the Apollo 11 astronauts smiling and looking happy after having returned, like the ones Saint Exupery posted.

Here's Neil Armstrong smiling as he gets out of quarantine, two days before the press conference.
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Here's another, one day after the press conference.
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They look don't look sad or upset at all.

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Great stuff Thank you! S&F!

A picture tells a thousand words! The before and after shots are very interesting. The whole video seems tense and controlled - almost like something is going to POP at any minute. In short - they were #ting themselves about what they could and could not talk about.

Armstrong is the real human here. Buzz is in on it, and my feeling on Young is they have something on him - but then again Young does look a little "grey" huh?

Beautiful summary of the Apollo 11 crew!