Originally posted by expat2368
Obama however refuses to release a normal long form birth certificate, signed by a doctor.
Quite frankly, he doesn't have to. The "short form" that was released had all of the data reqired by the state department to prove citizenship, and Hawaii's Department of Health birth record request form doesn't even have an option to get your "long form".
If you feel a "long form" certificate should be a new requirement for presidential eligibility, then feel free to petition your state representatives to sponsor a new bill that would require such.
Originally posted by expat2368
He also refuses to release information that every other president has released.
Perhaps you could link G.W. Bush's long form certificate. Clinton's? G.H.W. Bush's? Reagan's? Carter's? Heck, any U.S. President's from the last 50 years? If "every other president has released" them, then you should have no problem linking them all.
Originally posted by expat2368
There is a whole laundry list of items and everyone knows what they are.
Argumentum ad populum fallacies take the discussion nowhere.
Originally posted by expat2368
He is a fake, an impostor, and a liar, who has thus far spent almost 2 million dollars to keep from producing a standard long form birth certificate.
While I agree he's lied (flip-flopped) on some issues (just like any recent politician does to get elected), you're going to need to provide a bit more evidence for some of your other allegations.
[edit on 4/2/10 by redmage]

