Originally posted by Barkster
reply to post by pieman
Here, Freekin Here!!! This isnt about being adults its about culture and probably a whole lot of anger and frustration on the part of the
aboriginals. Stupid #ing people think they change a culture and transplant it and expect it to bucker up and be good Ausiies? WTF? How about carve
about a giant area of land like a few thousand square and create a refuge and leave them alone.
200 years after white invasion there is little of the original culture left. Yes, many things were done on both sides that we judge today as horrific,
but most do see that was not done by those living today and that we do feel terrible about what happened.
We also recognise that we cannot live in the past, nor heal the wounds of those who lived then.. we cannot heal the wounds of those alive today.
What we are left with is simple; each person having to make the best of their life now with what they have, no matter the ethnic background or
We understand that self-determinism is important for all peoples, and while we think the Native Aussie aren't privy to such ability, so are many
white aussies.. born to this country and therefore Native to Australia also.
The conditions displayed are the result of no respect for anything, especially one's self. This attribute cannot be given nor bolstered by another
person, instead it must come from within each individual and then taught to all succeeding generations as being of utmost importance.
As for the suggestion made on giving large tracts of land for these people to be forgotten. This has been done, and many choose to live in this areas.
Also many more seek to gain "Ownership" of their ancient tribal lands, which today belongs to people who paid money for it, as we in the western
culture do to own land.
Ownership is not a Murri/aboriginal concept, it is a western concept and therefore those people who's ancestors once moved around a large area in
their hunting for survival did not OWN anything, nor did they "Caretake" as we consider it today. They simply lived there, and fought other tribes
for thesame pathces of ground, much the same as all cultures have done. No one can really OWN the land, no matter what you pay for it or how ancient
your connections to it are.
Many of those who do live on their tribal lands live in the same degree of poverty shown in the OP, and they do this by choice, then complain about it
loudly. I cannot do this, I am required to do the best I can with what I have, and so to then must all peoples irrespective of their skin colour or
I cannot go live on one of these vast tracts of land set aside now for the original inhabitants because I am white. To share the ancient ways and
knowledge with me is in many cases taboo. To me this is a sad state of affairs in that there is a massive refusal to share the best aspects of the
culture with anyone outside of that culture.
This same culture separates itself. It has its own media awards, in fact it has its own everything to which whites are not usually invited. It is not
the whites creating this further separation, it is the aboriginal peoples themselves who choose to have the separatist attitudes... and to
abuse/attack the remainder for what happened over 200 years ago.
There is no easy solution to the problem. I have always thought that if a native person wishes to live in the bush and survive in the old ways, then
they should have a right to do so. I also think that I should also have the same right.
And this is where we get into further problems. Different laws for different people. It does not work. There must be one rule for all people.
Therefore the rules need to be considered fairly so that each person has the exact same rights as the next person to be self-determined, to choose
where and how they will live, etc.