Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) veiled racist remarks, page 1
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reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 03:10 PM by Misoir
reply to post by endisnighe



Nope I won't call you a racist because I doubt you are. If it was about the power of the federal government then they were probably mad because the feds wanted to step in and stop them from using slaves. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

While I support what the north did, it was unconstitutional. They had the right to leave the union. But they were doing unconstitutional things too, such as slavery.

[edit on 3/20/10 by Misoir]


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:39 PM by DINSTAAR
reply to post by Misoir




They seperated because they didn't believe in human rights and the north just tried to keep the nation together and secure human rights.


The Civil War was not a war over human rights. IF it was, it was a contest on whose human rights violations were acceptable. The north had no intention of being the morally correct side, it was just using a detestable idea (slavery) to enrage the population of the north to commit more terrible acts.


If it was about the power of the federal government then they were probably mad because the feds wanted to step in and stop them from using slaves. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.


I would like you to research the history of banking, tariffs, and monetary policy in the US during the 19th century. The answer lies in there.


While I support what the north did, it was unconstitutional. They had the right to leave the union. But they were doing unconstitutional things too, such as slavery.


They did not attack the south because of its ideas on slavery. They attacked it because Lincoln wanted to preserve the union at the expense of hundreds of thousands of lives. There is no excuse for morally reprehensible behavior. Slavery is wrong, but the north's barbarism was wrong as well. It is possible for both sides to be wrong.

If it was about slavery, why couldn't the USA have freed those people without bloodshed? Most of the rest of the world managed this task.

I have ancestors who fought for the north, and I do not let 150 year old propaganda or some vane sense of 'northern nationalist pride' cloud my judgment on historical events.

In fact, the earliest of abolitionists were against war altogether on the same basis that they were against slavery. The anti-slave movement took to the fields of battle by people using it only as a method for control in order to maintain their own wealth.

This "representative" might be a bigot, or he might not be, but his statement isn't that far from the truth. It's, at least, more accurate than calling it a war over the moral issue of slavery.



reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 04:40 PM by MaxBlack
Just because someone utters remarks that imply some type of racial bigotry does not mean that the remarks are "RACIST". While anyone using words to speak ill of some other race is indeed a bigot or someone of a prejudicial type, that alone does make one a racist.

The term racist gets overused so much and so misused in the media and in every day use that the uninformed masses are already brainwashed into believing that if someone talks bad or has negative remarks about someones color that he or she is a racist.

OK, now listen up. Someone sitting around talking bad about black people and mentioning watermelon and fried chicken would be speaking in "Stereotypes" and even those remarks would not be racist remarks. Let me explain what I mean.

Racism is when you take your dislike or hatred for some particular race and act to do something criminal to them. Action of a criminal and physical nature that was based on race equals racism.

Racism begins when you act on your bigotry and or dislike for some other race. Any action taken to physically harm someone that is of another color or race is racism. Now let me repeat that. If you say you hate black people, the remark is bigoted at best. If you go out and lynch a black man because he is black then you have committed a crime called murder. Only if can be proven that you hated blacks would the act of "RACISM" then be justly used against the criminal.

Without the physical criminal action behind the hate speech, there is no racism. This is why way back when that talk host got in trouble for saying nappy headed ho's, his remarks were not racist. They were stupid and insensitive, but at most they only prove bigotry or a prejudicial opinion of the race and are not racist remarks.

Saying you want to hang a black man is hate speech, but when you act and go do it, you now have crossed a line that first is a crime and if can be proven that you hated black people, then your actions would be criminal first and also racist because you did something criminal and physical to harm the race you stated you hated.

I would ask you and others to use the term racist correctly because if you did it would return to what it was meant to mean. Bigotry, prejudice and out right ignorance are not racist remarks. Hitting someone in the head with a brick because he is black is a crime first but it is also an act of racism only if it can be proven that the perpetrator hated the race of his intended victim. This is when his bigotry remarks and or prejudicial remarks that anyone can testify to would support the added definition of racism or racist.

Sorry for the lecture but it really peeves me to see so much misuse of the word racist and racism in the media and just about everywhere. The dumbfounding down of America is not yet complete, so in that regard, I hope my posting is understood as not to lecture but to inform.

Thanks for the posting.


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 05:21 PM by Wyn Hawks
Originally posted by Misoir
Yankee agression!? Is this guy serious??
They seperated because they didn't believe in human rights and the north just tried to keep the nation together and secure human rights.


...no, thats the lie thats taught as truth... the union whites werent interested in the human rights of non-whites either, never had been... proof is the genocidal policies against the indigenous... some people like to pretend that white supremacy only existed in southern states but, reality is, there were no regions of the usofa or its territories that were immune...

Originally posted by Misoir
This guy is a complete moron. Many of the stupid southerners continue to re-enact a war they LOST. If it wasn't for the Union these hilbillies would be living like it's Africa and we would have constant wars with these idiots.


...supremacy is a disease...

www.abfition.com...


My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause.


...good ol' Abe, dancin' the cya like a pro...


reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 05:28 PM by Aggie Man
reply to post by MaxBlack



I see your point. Here is a great writeup someone did on the subject of bigotry vs. prejudice vs. racism.

www.mdcbowen.org...




reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 06:45 PM by Southern Guardian
reply to post by Aggie Man



Im sorry I just dont see anything racist. Are the racist politicians? You betcha, but I didnt see much out of this video.
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