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Freemasons, Antarctica & Lodge No. 777

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posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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Howdy! Here is my second thread!

I want to discuss the connection between Freemasons, Antarctica and the number 777.

First, let's look at some fun facts about Admiral Byrd!


  • Admiral Byrd is arguably the most important American polar explorer and has had numerous trips to the north and south pole. Link 1
  • brother of Harry F. Byrd, governor and senator. Link 1
  • Born in 1888 to one of the oldest and most distinguished families in the history of Virginia, Richard Byrd seemed destined for fame. Link 2
  • He discovered the Edsel Ford Mountains and Marie Byrd Land in Antarctica. Link 1
  • He spent five months alone near the South Pole. 1
  • In 1939 he was made commander of the U.S. Antarctic Service and again went to the South Polar region, discovering five new mountain ranges, five islands, and more than 100,000 square miles of area. 1
  • He became a member of Federal Lodge No. 1, Washington, D.C. on March 19, 1921. 1
  • He and his pilot, Bernt Balchen dropped Masonic flags on the two poles. 1
  • AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: In the Antarctic expedition of 1933-35, 60 of the 82 members were Freemasons and on February 5, 1935 established First Antarctic Lodge No. 777 of New Zealand constitution. link 1. (also i believe i read recently that the president of new zealand was a freemason at the time of the creation of the lodge.)





Ok, we now know that Admiral Byrd was a freemason and helped lead most of the Antarctic trips. Besides the obvious question of what the hell really happened in Antarctica, i want to know the significance of the lodge to be named No. 777 in Antarctica.

There is little information on the Antarctica lodge No. 777. If the creation date was 1935 and not 1947, like the one website states, i could see there being no significance to the number. If it was in built in the 1947 trip i could see some kind of meaning to it, since it could have some connection to what is really happening in Antarctica (nazis and hitler?).

Finding out the meaning of 777 is a bit tricky too, and can mean a bunch of other things.

There are two websites, link 4 and (doh, can't find the 5th!), that give some examples of meanings of the number 777, but all of them are too far fetched too me.

So here is my question to you guys, especially freemasons! What is the significance of the number 777? Also, when was the number 777 first associated with luck and using the number in slot machines? I could not find this answer either!

Operatoin Highjump is one of my favorite areas to research!


link 1: www.phoenixmasonry.org...
link 2: www.federallodge.net...
link 3: en.wikipedia.org...
link 4: www.ridingthebeast.com...
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posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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let's look at Admiral Byrd's famous trip down south. If anyone has reserached Operation Highjump, you are probably familiar with this story. link 3

The fourth culminating expedition, Operation Highjump, was the largest Antarctic expedition to date. In 1946, US Navy Secretary James Forrestal assembled a huge amphibious naval force for an Antarctic Expedition expected to last six to eight months. Besides the flagship Mount Olympus and the aircraft carrier Philippine Sea, there were thirteen US Navy support ships, six helicopters, six flying boats, two seaplane tenders and fifteen other aircraft. The total number of personnel involved was over 4,000. The armada arrived in the Ross Sea on December 31, 1946, and made aerial explorations of an area half the size of the United States, recording ten new mountain ranges. The major area covered was the eastern coastline of Antarctica from 150 degrees east to the Greenwich meridian. The expedition was terminated abruptly at the end of February 1947, six months early, the entire remaining armada returning immediately to the United States. The only explanation ever given for the early termination of the mission was provided in an interview granted to Lee van Atta of International News Services aboard the support ship Mount Olympus on the high seas and published in the Chilean newspaper El Mercurio on Wednesday 5 March 1947. The following extracts show the abstract manner in which the admiral was thinking and may explain why conspiracy theorists specializing in alleged Aryan or Nazi activities in Antarctica have speculated extensively about this mission: "Admiral Richard E Byrd warned today of the necessity for the United States to adopt protective measures against the possibility of an invasion of the country by hostile aircraft proceeding from the polar regions. The admiral said: "I do not want to scare anybody but the bitter reality is that in the event of a new war the United States will be attacked by aircraft flying in from over one or both poles." On the subject of the recently terminated expedition, Byrd said that "the most important of the observations and discoveries made was the of the present potential situation as it relates to the security of the United States...I can do no more than warn my countrymen very forcibly that the time has passed when we could take refuge in complete isolation and rest in confidence in the guarantee of security which distance, the oceans and the poles provide. The admiral warned of the necessity to "remain in a state of alert and watchfulness". He said that he "realized perhaps better than any other person the significance of the scientific discoveries made in these explorations because I can make comparisons" (i.e. between now and when he was in Antarctica pre-war). We are abandoning the region after making important geographical discoveries."

So the US government sent 4,000 troops to map out the south pole? Wow, that is a lot of people! Too bad they spent all that money and man power on a 2 month winter trip that lead to nothing but that amazing quote at the end! Very interesting.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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777 is a number that represents the biblical form of an angel

in jackpots from what ppl in the casinos say who work there, they say it means luck, i know their not experts just trying to help with the casino urban legend aspect as i am interested in this angle too.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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thanks for the reply. I also wanted to add one thing.

I am not sure how the creators of each masonic lodge pick the number for their lodge. I am assuming the creators get to come up with the number, and i am assuming that most lodges are numbered in order of creation by state. Basic googling has lead me to find at least 2 other lodges no. 777, one in Idaho i believe and the other in Illinois.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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Admiral Byrd Also went through the hollow earth, inner earth, of course i will be attacked for saying that



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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haha yeah i didn't want to bring that up but that is an interesting part of the story. The reason i didn't mention it because it appears that his "journal" was obviously faked and that it wasn't true.

I have done a bunch of research on the hollow earth theory and sadly it seems to be bull, but i haven't closed my eyes too it 100%.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 06:11 PM
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sorry but i believe hollow earth is real and his journal wasnt faked

there are alots of things that the government is hiding from us, you got have an open mind.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 06:23 PM
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America is about the only significant nation on the planet that never sent an expedition to the the Antarctic to plant a flag there, and claim some region as being "discovered" for king and country.

America has planted flags on the moon, but never did that in the Antarctic.

Look at a map, there is NO AMERICAN ANTARCTIC TERRITORY. And never can be.

What America did during the International Geophysical Year was fly over Antarctica an make a bunch of excellent maps and take some scientific measurements and make observations. But America was far too late in the game, at lest half a century too late, to claim any American Antarctic territory there.

By far the biggest slice of the Antarctic is Australian Antarctic territory, only because Sir Douglas Mawson went back there repeatedly sticking Aussie flags into the snow all over the place.
First come first served.

If a bunch of Masons in America want to believe that THEY discovered Antarctica, and start up a new lodge on that basis, good luck to them.
Like many things in freemasonry it is all based on a bunch of lies untruths and a lot of nonsense.




[edit on 18/3/2010 by Silver Shadow]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 06:36 PM
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There is a lot to antartica. Agent, i almost agree with you but the hollow earth theory. There are a bunch of reasons that support the hollow earth theory, the biggest one for me is the fact that in Antarctica and other high resolution maps the very center is NEVER shown in high resolution. Especially google earth, the poles are not shown.

Also, this is interesting:

The Antarctic Treaty was signed in 1959 by twelve countries; to date, forty-six countries have signed the treaty. The treaty prohibits military activities and mineral mining, supports scientific research, and protects the continent's ecozone. Ongoing experiments are conducted by more than 4,000 scientists of many nationalities and with different research interests.

Why can't there be military or mining there? What are they hiding? It is also my understanding that you can't just sail over to antarctica and walk around.

high res antarctica map:
lima.usgs.gov...



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012
There is a lot to antartica. Agent, i almost agree with you but the hollow earth theory. There are a bunch of reasons that support the hollow earth theory, the biggest one for me is the fact that in Antarctica and other high resolution maps the very center is NEVER shown in high resolution. Especially google earth, the poles are not shown.

Also, this is interesting:

The Antarctic Treaty was signed in 1959 by twelve countries; to date, forty-six countries have signed the treaty. The treaty prohibits military activities and mineral mining, supports scientific research, and protects the continent's ecozone. Ongoing experiments are conducted by more than 4,000 scientists of many nationalities and with different research interests.

Why can't there be military or mining there? What are they hiding? It is also my understanding that you can't just sail over to antarctica and walk around.

high res antarctica map:
lima.usgs.gov...




Ever taken a photograph of clear white snow in bright sunlight ?
Ah! all you see is white with no detail, that must be censorship in your camera created by secret alien technology.
Remember, the ice cap is miles thick and dead flat, there are no mountains, roads, rivers, or any detail to see.
High resolution would not look any different to low resolution. There is NOTHING there to resolve.

Yes the antarctic treaty of 1959 prohibits the dumping of waste, particularly nuclear waste. Mining and oil drilling are prohibited because of the very fragile nature of the ecology down there.

Why no military ?
Why would you want to build a military base down there anyway, it has no strategic value.

In fact all the US bases in the Antarctic are administered by the US navy, but have civilian scientists. The navy provide the infrastructure and service the bases, but they are not military in the sense that they are not armed for conflict with anyone.

Why no mining ?
It would be easier to mine under several thousand feet of ocean, than through several thousand feet of constantly SLOWLY MOVING solid ice. There may be gold, diamonds, uranium down there, but the cost of mining it with any known technology just totally impossible. Why are there no mines on the moon ? Same reasons, too expensive and impractical.

To understand how remote, and how cold it is down there, and how difficult it is to even survive months of total darkness, you really need to spend a whole year living on an Antarctic base.
I have done that twice.

[edit on 18/3/2010 by Silver Shadow]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 12:22 AM
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Thanks for the reply Tony. I totally understand what you are saying and i have read most of that so that is why i do not believe most of the crazy stories with Antarctica. The only thing that is really questionable about the whole continent is the use of 4000 men to chart the area and the weird interview Byrd gave in Argentina.

Also the other weird thing is the possibility of Hitler being in Antarctica. I know there is no proof of this but i believe he did not die in the bunker and went to Argentina or some place else.

The Nazi UFOs are very interesting too. I almost think that most UFO stories after world war 2 were related to the Nazi UFOs.

Another interesting thing is how much interest Russia has with Antarctica, they have sent many missions there.

But ofcourse you probably know all this :-D

And one last thing about the high resolution images. If you look at the link i posted above, lima.usgs.gov... you can see in the middle where the big circle is, there are clearly mountain ranges, lakes and land seen. I know with miles of blank white images it would be hard to graph it but i do not believe there is "nothing" there because you can clearly see a mountain range and water.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012 you can see in the middle where the big circle is, there are clearly mountain ranges, lakes and land seen. I know with miles of blank white images it would be hard to graph it but i do not believe there is "nothing" there because you can clearly see a mountain range and water.


There cannot possibly be mountains because the weight of several MILES thick solid ice has pushed down the main Antarctic land mass by roughly half a mile to well below sea level. The only (rock) mountains are in some of the very rare ice free areas all scattered around the coast.

There cannot possibly be inland lakes up on the plateau, when the temperature may be at minus forty degrees or colder all year round.

Again there are hundreds of very small lakes in the exposed rocky outcrop areas around the coast.

I spent one year at one of those ice free rocky areas with lakes, The Vestfold Hills.
Spent many cold hours in small boats taking water samples there.
But further inland up on the main Antarctic plateau, there is just nothing.
It is cold flat and featureless once you get well inland.

Maybe the Nazis had flying saucers, and went to the moon.
Maybe Hitler, Elvis Presley and Micheal Jackson are all living at a secret underground base in Antarctica. And maybe not.........



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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i'm just basing the guess of mountains and lakes in the center based on this map lima.usgs.gov... where in the circle you can not see high quality images but there seems to be mountains there. I don't know if they are free of ice because there are no satellite images of the center. But if you look at that map it looks like mountains and lakes, what do i know?

The work you did sounds really neat. What temps were the lakes? Did you happen to hear about the lodge No. 777 or know around where it is located?

I understand that most of antarctica is absolutely nothing.

I know the nazi ufo stuff is about as crazy as you get and i am not trying to go there, really, i didn't mention that in my OP. I just really want to know the significance of the 777 and was wondering where the lodge was, i would like to visit it sometime!

The real thing that would be neat to find would be hints at ancient civilizations. If there ever was a poll flip or if the pole shifted or moved at all, i am sure some parts of antarctica were in a warmer climate so that would be awesome to find evidence of a city.

That would be awesome!



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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Mc Murdo station is located right on the coast of the Ross Ice shelf..

Read the last paragraph of your link.

Right at the coast there certainly are mountains and islands, as you can see.
But deep into the interior of Antarctica, that is something very different.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012

The work you did sounds really neat. What temps were the lakes?

All the lakes remained well below freezing temperature, even in summer.
Most remain completely solid ice, but some are so salty they never freeze.
Some very cold, very dark, and very salty lakes, actually have microscopic life in them.
That is what the biologists down there were so very interested in when I was there.

mic.sgmjournals.org...



I just really want to know the significance of the 777 and was wondering where the lodge was, i would like to visit it sometime!


Would not have a clue about the 777, never even heard of it before this thread. Unless you are a mason, you will have great difficulty finding out where it is, or ever getting an invitation to go inside.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Shadow
If a bunch of Masons in America want to believe that THEY discovered Antarctica, and start up a new lodge on that basis, good luck to them.
Like many things in freemasonry it is all based on a bunch of lies untruths and a lot of nonsense.


guess what ?

the man Australian man you speak of, who, the way you put it, somehow accomplished something perpindicular to the brotherhood's express enterprise....

WAS actually.. a mason himself.

check it out...

from - Famous Freemasons - Adventurers


Adventurers: Lewis & Clark, Charles A. Lindbergh, Kit Carson, William F. ("Buffalo Bill") Cody, Roald Amundsen, Adm. Richard Byrd, Commodore Robert E. Peary, Sir Douglas Mawson, Robert Falcon Scott

another source - [ulr]http://www.portsmouthmasons.org/famousmasonsworld.htm[/url]

actually ironcially enough...the NAME "Mawson" actually derives form the word Stone Mason...
see here..
www.houseofnames.com...



www.houseofnames.com...



so intrigueing to me.. some of THE most interesting material in history .. to me.. is masonic enterprise.. endeavours into the beyond..

and just for the books...
does ANYONE here ever correlate the speculated pole-shift and warming/cooling of certain earth geographic areas..
with the future potential of Antarctica becoming in a relatively few decades from the alleged "flip" ... Antarctica actually becoming raised.. thawed.. developable land??
I haven't seen this discussion anywhere.

of course if the masons were to control when and where it gets developed.. I'd expect the highest level of scrutiny in it's delicacy... and only allow proven renewable based industries and energy to be implemented during the building of that very newly birthed land (hypothetically) ...

learning about/ speculating about high level cutting edge historically impactful upper strate enterprises of masonic origin...
... makes my spine tingle.

good stuff..
star and flag.

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posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by prevenge
the man Australian man you speak of, who, the way you put it, somehow accomplished something perpindicular to the brotherhood's express enterprise....

WAS actually.. a mason himself.


Sure Doug Mawson was a mason, so what ?

There have also been other famous Australian mason explorers that have been absolute total failures.
That includes the infamous Bourke and Wills expedition planned and funded completely by masons.

They were two bumbling and incompatible idiots that made a great many silly mistakes and errors of judgment trying to cross the Australian continent from south to north, and died a most miserable and Godless death.
Several other people involved in that expedition died too trying to help them.

Maybe we should start up a new lodge somewhere celebrating stupidity and great masonic failures ?

www.burkeandwills.net.au...

[edit on 19/3/2010 by Silver Shadow]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Shadow

Originally posted by prevenge
the man Australian man you speak of, who, the way you put it, somehow accomplished something perpindicular to the brotherhood's express enterprise....

WAS actually.. a mason himself.


Sure Doug Mawson was a mason, so what ?

There have also been other famous Australian mason explorers that have been absolute total failures.
That includes the infamous Bourke and Wills expedition planned and funded completely by masons.

They were two bumbling and incompatible idiots that made a great many silly mistakes and errors of judgment trying to cross the Australian continent from south to north, and died a most miserable and Godless death.
Several other people involved in that expedition died too trying to help them.

Maybe we should start up a new lodge somewhere celebrating stupidity and great masonic failures ?

www.burkeandwills.net.au...

[edit on 19/3/2010 by Silver Shadow]


so you sum up two individual's lifetimes of work into "bumbling and incompatible idiots" ...

the entire accumulation of their whole lifetime's worth of thoughts, loves, and ventures.. based on one respectable attempt's scrutinized failure....

you use that same logic in deciding which rugby team to root for?

seriously..

at least they tried.. and laid forth the path for others to try and try again...
which inevitably leads to a land's conquest and eventual development...

at least they took a risk and attempted something respectful..

and I'm sure during that long journey they had many mini-successes within it..during so. maybe not so mentioned in the national paper's headlines.. but moreso in the depths of textbooks...

they made their contributions.

if only to inspire others.

p.s. ...why so pithy in your regards? bad mood?



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posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Shadow
so intrigueing to me.. some of THE most interesting material in history .. to me.. is masonic enterprise.. endeavours into the beyond..

and just for the books...
does ANYONE here ever correlate the speculated pole-shift and warming/cooling of certain earth geographic areas..
with the future potential of Antarctica becoming in a relatively few decades from the alleged "flip" ... Antarctica actually becoming raised.. thawed.. developable land??
I haven't seen this discussion anywhere.



I actually just started thinking about that recently. I really wonder if a "flip" has happened in the past and they know about humans being there. I have a feeling that atlantis could be there and a flip destroyed it.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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(also i believe i read recently that the president of new zealand was a freemason at the time of the creation of the lodge.)


New Zealand has never had a President. Prime Minister, yes, but no President.

That isn't meant to be a criticism, I see it as being an honest mistake.

Carry on.



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