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Topic started on 6-3-2010 @ 03:25 PM by DjSharperimage

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This John Avalon is quite a piece of work
He is a neocon
Look at his record

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John Phillips Avlon[1] (born 1973) is the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics and Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America. He was a columnist and associate editor for The New York Sun and worked as chief speechwriter for former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani. He was Director of Speechwriting and Deputy Policy Director for Giuliani's 2008 presidential campaign.[2] He is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.[3] He is senior political columnist at TheDailyBeast.com.[4]
[edit] Life and career

Avlon is the son of Dianne P. and John J. Avlon of South Carolina.[1] Avlon was the youngest and longest-serving speechwriter in the Giuliani Administration as well as Deputy Communications Director. His work included helping prepare the Mayor's State of the City Addresses for 1999 through 2001. After the attacks of September 11th, he and his team were responsible for writing the eulogies for all New York City Firefighters, New York City Police Officers, Port Authority Police Officers and other emergency workers killed in the destruction of the World Trade Center. Additionally, he served on the staff of the Bilingual Education Reform Task Force, the City Hall Park Restoration Committee, and the 2001 Charter Revision Commission, which established the Office of Emergency Management as a permanent city agency.

Independent Nation has been called, "the definitive history of 'Centrism' in America, and probably the best-selling radical centrist book to date."[5] Avlon has lectured at Yale University, NYU, the Citadel, the Kennedy School of Government, and the State Departments visiting journalist program. He is an advisory board member of the Citizens Union of New York, Bronx Academy of Letters and the Theodore Roosevelt Association.

He has appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, PBS, and C-Span. He hosts the "Wingnut of the Week" segment on CNN.[6] Syndicated columnist Kathleen Parker wrote that "Americans who are fed up with the Ann Coulter/Michael Moore school of debate, and are looking for someone to articulate a common sense middle path, may have found their voice in John Avlon."[7] His essay on the attacks of September 11, The Resilient City was selected to conclude the anthology Empire City: New York Through the Centuries and won acclaim from Fred Siegel, the author of The Future Once Happened Here, as "the single best essay written in the wake of 9/11."

Avlon is married to Margaret Hoover, the great-granddaughter of President Herbert Hoover.[1

Margaret Hoover
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Margaret Hoover received a B.A. in Spanish Literature with a minor in Political Science from Bryn Mawr College in 2001. She also attended Davidson College for two years, where she was a member of Warner Hall. She worked for Bush-Cheney 04, Inc. and was the Deputy Press Secretary to Florida Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart on Capitol Hill. She then held a White House appointment in the Bush Administration, and also served as a senior advisor to the Deputy Secretary in the Department of Homeland Security. Most recently, she has worked as Deputy Finance Director to Rudy Giulianis Presidential Exploratory Committee. She is a frequent contributor to Fox News's O'Reilly Factor.

In December, 2008, she traveled to the United States territory of Puerto Rico to unveil a bronze, life-sized statue of President Hoover, part of a series of seven statues honoring the Presidents who have visited the territory during their terms of office. The series was commissioned by House Speaker José Aponte and Senate President Kenneth McClintock.

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:38 PM by TheLaughingGod

Then the question is.. how insane is society at large?

www.msnbc.msn.com...

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:48 PM by Maxmars

It's up to communities like ours to show the CNN editorial staff how wrong they are.....

That is, if it the truth matters to them at all....

Mildly ironic, one radical calling others 'radical.' And the media machine picking which accusations to propagate, and which to ignore.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:53 PM by warpcrafter

The government has made us crazy, so perhaps now they should reap what they've sewn. All the gasbags and pundits and poo-pooing yes-men can come on Anderson Cooper and Chris Mathews and Bill O-Reilly and have their mutual stroke-off session if they want, but that is not going to stop the disintegration of the social order or the rage that the military industrial complex has instilled in otherwise peaceful people. Go ahead and fiddle while the USA burns!!!

See, now if I end up dead they can point at that and say I'm a fearspiracist. On second thought, I quite like the sound of that.

Can I change my screen name?

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:54 PM by TheCoffinman

it is patriotic to hate the government when the government hates its people. when the government is a big theft machine, a big killing machine, raping its people of life. OBEY YOUR MASTER says mr. avalon. be a good boy and get on your knees... what a piece of #

read this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com... mr. avalon...
"Corporate america's love affair with Fascism"

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:54 PM by truthseeker1984

Originally posted by Maxmars
It's up to communities like ours to show the CNN editorial staff how wrong they are.....

That is, if it the truth matters to them at all....

Mildly ironic, one radical calling others 'radical.' And the media machine picking which accusations to propagate, and which to ignore.

I second that notion Maxmars. Just one group of radicals calling another group radical. What is this world coming to?

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:56 PM by gatewaywithin

Apparently this is becoming more and more popular in mainstream media.Seems as dissidence is increasing among the populace about the current state of America. The media is going all out on labeling anyone that disagrees with current authority, as a nutjob and associating normal free thinking people who don't agree with everything that's going on, with these lunatics who commit these violent crimes.At this rate anyone who speaks out against anything will soon be labeled a terrorist.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 03:56 PM by ExPostFacto

So is this a Conspiracy against Conspiracy theorists? I would say so. Point the finger and you have (3) fingers pointing back.

Next thing you know we will have pro life people blowing up people to make a point that we should all be pro life.

Or environmentalists starting fires that burn down forests.

Or gun right activists being shot on the street by anti-gun right activists.

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:01 PM by the dacoit

so basically what this guy is saying...is that questioning is bad and if you question you fall under a "conspiracy theorist" and you are similar to people like john bedell. so ....get in line and get robbed. why is it that these guys try soooo hard to look like they are specialists in everything..and who the hell watches CNN nowadays anyway..

PS...dont you think his haircut is kinda fruity?

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:10 PM by Carseller4

I think attacks like these will rise.

Recent examples are the "Obama obsessed" College professor shooting her fellow teachers, the capitalist hating guy that flew his plane into a FBI building, and now a 9/11 truther attacking the Pentagon.

Remember the rise of psychiatric care when John Kerry lost to Bush in 2004? Now think about how hard people fell for Obama in 2008? Now think about how liberals tend to be filled with hate in the first place. Combine the two and I don't see this trend stopping anytime soon.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:24 PM by MemoryShock

We have had "domestic terrorist attacks" before and because there wasn't an internet community, much less a conspiracy community, we weren't even on the radar.

This is reactionary reporting and fairly shoddy at that.

They are ignorant on many of the topics we have looked into on a daily basis, in my opinion.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:35 PM by SaturnFX

Everyone is a conspiracy theorist to some extent.
Watch any political talking head...they make their entire living on conspiracys of the other side.

There is a difference between a conspiracy theorist and a imbalanced paranoid delusional..

I wonder if these talking heads have recieved a proper education or if they simply do not grasp the english language well enough to articulate proper sentences using correct words.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:36 PM by Ahabstar

Sounds like a frustrated newsman tired of being scooped at every step. So he would rather make a villain out of his better. Sure there are some fringe elements to conspiracy theorists, just as there are with every group. Not every small town preacher teaches the same garbage that Rev. Phelps does.

For the most part, conspiracy theorists are prognosticators that look at an event, research everything that went into it and see signs of similar events on the horizon by seeing similar signs earlier than those that do not look. Much in the same way an outdoorsman can look at the clouds and forecast rain for the day.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:38 PM by warpcrafter

They love to create words like "fearspiracist" and "hatriot", so that they can use them as keywords on the internet to figure out how far their idiotic message is spreading. It's like their own personal graffiti on society.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:41 PM by davidgrouchy

What a chore. I had to find the instructions and then finally look up how to do it on the internet. But it's done.

CNN is now "skip"-ed from my channel list.

Bye bye.

David Grouchy

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Yes, in this case, I have shot the messenger.

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:44 PM by AlreadyGone

Conspiracy Theorists are crazy, paranoid, and suicidal. Black folks like fried chicken. Jews love money. White southerners are all in the KKK and like racin'. All Italians are in the Mob.... let's see...who did we miss?

This is nothing more than a reversal of what Nixon did back during the Viet Nam war... all war protesters are long haired, dope smokin' subversives with Communist leanings... Now, all protesters are right-wing religious Nazis, with terrorists tendencies.

Undermine your opponents, nullify their voice, and push your agenda...propaganda 101...Obama style.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 04:58 PM by teapot

'They' must be afraid of something.

Perhaps there is a 'crazy' thread or two that are factual, likely to break MSM sometime soon and CNN are the public interface that will preempt public acceptance of the truth.

Psychological Warfare! This is a preemptive attack to demonise Truthsayers.

A battle for the heart and mind of middle America.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 05:00 PM by MemoryShock

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Also, the use of the term schizophrenic was used as descriptive. There is no way to verify any schizophrenia...so why was it just assumed and used without question?

Hence the irresponsibility of this reporting piece...they have the biggest audience and they immediately polarize.

I just shake my head and wonder at times...

Edit to Add - And of course Avlon was selling his book...

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 05:24 PM by harrytuttle

Shame on Anderson Cooper for not pointing out the obvious:

The fact that this particular individual schizophrenic just-so-happens to have opinions about 9/11 conspiracy theories HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH him being schizophrenic.

Get it?

Researching and discussing 9/11 events doesn't make you schizophrenic. But his dips@#$ author is DIRECTLY IMPLYING such nonsense. And Anderson Cooper does nothing to debate that preposterous implication.

Say a schizophrenic (violence is rare) attacks a Pentagon guard booth, but we find out later he was actively involved posting on the internet his opinions about the NFL?

Would we then conclude that studying the NFL leads to schizophrenia? NO, of course not.

But this douche nozzle does, because it fits his political agenda and Anderson Cooper is providing the platform for him to spew out this B.S.

Why would Anderson Cooper be doing this???

Could it be because he has to prove to his overlords he's good enough for the job of CBS Nightly News lead anchor?

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 05:25 PM by {davinci}

Not to be self promoting, but I pretty much called this type of situation...

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The two recent attacks are the only thing that was missing to truely label us as a danger that can be sold to the complacent public. The story needed a face to point fingers at.

Now they have one.

Double-whammy if you consider that the gunman also questioned the 9/11 story.

Just pathetic. The MSM is so desperate for anything that can be sensationalized. Whatever keeps the real issues off the airwaves I guess.

Get ready, here it comes. You can bet we will be swamped with stories of conspiracy theorists and their threat to the American way of life for the forseeable future.

EDIT:

Here's how MSN Canada covered the story...

Report on Pentagon Gunman

Funny that the conspiracy element wasn't as important on this side of the border (although it was mentioned last, making it most likely to be remembered).

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