Everybody is not making money

The whole world cant make money. Is this true? Why is that then? Why cant everyone in the whole wide world make money? What's the reason behind this?

reply to post by Tormentations


Perhaps only YOU are not making money?

As long as you are willing to work hard and honestly, there will be money to be had.

The only issue is:- Are you contend with the amount, to live and love, or to seek more - to take more than you can give?

Edit: I am aware there are forces far beyond our control that had made us live on slave wages, but that is currently being addressed right now by elected leaders or they get the boot. No matter what, it is still a wage to temporary live and survive till the situation is brought under control and a balance is found.

In the meantime, never give up. It aint the end yet. Get a job, no matter how mean. It's temporary survival mode as the world goes on reset mode.

Take heart that there are more good men around to stand up to such forces. Mankind can be lied to for one day, for one year, for a century, but never forever.

Good luck and cheers!:-)



[edit on 6-3-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


I dont think the question in the OP refers to any particular individual, or to work ethic. the question is can net wealth for the world increase. I believe it can, i am of the opinion that time is money, therefore every second is more wealth. also, i think that every person is an asset, so every child born is an increase in net wealth for the world.

some people criticize this capitalist mentality, but i do not see anything wrong with it

reply to post by Ozzy Mandias


I agree with you. The most valuable asset a nation can have is human capital.

As for the OP's belief that wealth is not created, that is only due to jobs NOT being created to harness human and resource capital during this confusing period.

Earth had not run out of resources yet, and humans are willing and ready to work to earn money for survival - to live and love. Our human economy had always been based on one and only one word - confidence.

Confidence that an honest day's work will be rewarded for an honest day's job. Unfortunately, the rich and upper middle class had been gambling too much in the casino known as Wall Street. When the ponzi schemes crashed, they hoarded their funds in fear.

That fear and its monetary capital had been hidden. It needs to circulate as it had hurt the real economy - of gathering, harvesting and trading resources - honest day labours that had proven effective in provided financial stability if not wealth to the human race.

Fortunately, there is still spending, even though minimal, espacially by representative govts. The momentum needs to keep up by the govt, workers and investors, hopefully more wiser, knows where the real money is - fairer use of resources and not ponzi blank sheets of paper.

reply to post by Tormentations

The whole world cant make money. Is this true? Why is that then? Why cant everyone in the whole wide world make money? What's the reason behind this?

When you say "making money" are you talking about profit or revenue or salary/wages?

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[edit on 6-3-2010 by LadySkadi]

That's because there is not enough money in existance. It is my view that for every bit of additional production in the economy there needs to be an equal amount of money created. This is the major reason that wages suck and 1 in 5 people can't find any kind of employment. There simply is not enough money to go around. If we paid off our nations debt with newly minted cash and printed money to fund government instead of taxes and borrowing, then things would be very different and much better. It will never happen because then we wouldn't need bankers per say.

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical


Every dollar printed is based on assets. There is more than enough money to go round. We mankind had been digging for gold and resources for centuries. The only issue is that the central bank may NOT have printed enough money or had kept it minimal.

Consider also that mankind's population growth had grown equally for centuries. We had more human resource capital to provide for equal NEEDS that is payable through our trading capital known as the dollar in exchange.

Assets had also grown, not only under the ground, but above the ground and even up in the air in the form of aircrafts and satellite. Technology is too an asset.

There is enough money to form a bridge to Mars, with resources under our Earth as 70% lies under the sea.

So where's the money? It didnt disappear into the thin air. Check under the rich men bed for once and you will be staggered at the amounts found hoarded.

Originally posted by Ozzy Mandias
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

 

I dont think the question in the OP refers to any particular individual, or to work ethic. the question is can net wealth for the world increase. I believe it can, i am of the opinion that time is money, therefore every second is more wealth. also, i think that every person is an asset, so every child born is an increase in net wealth for the world.

some people criticize this capitalist mentality, but i do not see anything wrong with it

This thread could offer up some interesting discussion. If money is an equilibrium, no new money is gained or lost( minus money that falls down drain pipes, is lost, or is printed off), just shifted around. If more rich have more money, that means they are sapping money from everyone else, because it is moving to the upper class, making the middle class and poor, even poorer. There is always the few who get up out of the middle class or lower class, but that isn't often. If the equilibrium could be perfectly balanced, where everyone has the same, socialism could theoretically work.

While I don't think that it is ethical for the entire world to worship money like our western cultures, the playing field is currently being "evened out".
I believe that the last evolution left for society after Capitalism has failed, and Socialism has failed - is Communism.

Guess I think we'll be there soon.

reply to post by Tormentations


Good question. Since money is more or less a fixed resource at any given time then no everybody cannot make money at the same time.

In order for some people to profit over time some other group of people must loose part of their money over time.

I know this may seem like a bad thing, but actually it is a good thing. Think of gaining money as a reward for behaviors that give society what it wants in an efficient manner, and loosing money as a punishment for failing to do so.

This is good in that it helps a community, state, nation, etc to allocate its resources to what the market (the people) desire. It also helps those how gain money learn that what they are doing is working and it teaches those that loose money that they need to find out and fix whatever it is they are doing wrong.

Originally posted by Tormentations
The whole world cant make money. Is this true? Why is that then? Why cant everyone in the whole wide world make money? What's the reason behind this?

Its true that people are not making real creditible money for themselve's as the Federal Reserve Bank manufacturer their own paper notes. Therefore it is not calculated how much money is going in and out of the system.

The only way people could ever see real value to their hard, earned cash we would have to find a way to re-setting the credit limit to Zero and as for handing in your unwanted gold for cash note's which is the stupidest thing anybody can do as they are loosing true value gold for paper note's that hold only the value of the number listed on the paper note and as for when the elite are happy with gathering all that's left of people's true value of their gold they will re-establish a new money system that does not require paper note's and coins.

Therefore our so-called new money system would be similar to ID cards and all your hard earned cash now appear's as number's on a screen at your local atm. And you will be tracked every shop you spend cash in, from every supermarket you spend for accessories/food/beverages. And people will NEVER pay back the DEBT for the RECESSION.

Start waking up now!!! As there is a lot the people at the top are hiding you from.

Its only a matter of time. Do you really think for one second the recession will ever clear up, will it heck, we are all in for debt til the day we pass. And so forth the next generation's. This is why the Federal Reserve and Elite need to be stopped in their tracks. For the sake of out generation's, generation's before and after.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by DClairvoyant]

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by Tormentations

 

Edit: I am aware there are forces far beyond our control that had made us live on slave wages, but that is currently being addressed right now by elected leaders or they get the boot. No matter what, it is still a wage to temporary live and survive till the situation is brought under control and a balance is found.

In the meantime, never give up. It aint the end yet. Get a job, no matter how mean. It's temporary survival mode as the world goes on reset mode.

Take heart that there are more good men around to stand up to such forces. Mankind can be lied to for one day, for one year, for a century, but never forever.

Good luck and cheers!:-)

[edit on 6-3-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]

I've highlighted this because the government official's will be given the choice to resign due to keeping a lid on the truth and the top official's within government agencies will direct and appoint a new member of staff into the place where the last one stood down to make it appear that the government are doing something to change the country for the better and lie to the people and keep them in the shadow's for generation's to come so that the recession debt will never be paid back as we will always be enslaved for slave wages until something is done.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by DClairvoyant]

Originally posted by Ozzy Mandias
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

 

I dont think the question in the OP refers to any particular individual, or to work ethic. the question is can net wealth for the world increase. I believe it can, i am of the opinion that time is money, therefore every second is more wealth. also, i think that every person is an asset, so every child born is an increase in net wealth for the world.

some people criticize this capitalist mentality, but i do not see anything wrong with it

This line was highlighted because on everybody's birth certificate's there is a numerical code used and this for every person born from day one has been used and is still currently used in the stock trade market.

We are all asset's to the government agencies, whether you want to believe it is another thing.

This basically means that in the eye's of corporate interest's we as society for all our hard, earned cash that isnt really our's, and of necessities we purchase whether it be cars, planes, boats, houses, clothes, food, holiday's, etc we do not rightfully own as the government own's us and everything we thought we owned doesn't belong to us! There's enough information out there to read up on and if you have contacts you'll be told off this shocking truth as I was. It disgusted me.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by DClairvoyant]