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Originally posted by dzonatas
reply to post by nophun
Let's get to the root difference between Intelligent Design and Evolution. The difference is Intelligence itself. The person into Intelligent Design tries to prove that Intelligence existed before Design. Those in Evolution says it doesn't matter and that it could be pure natural chance for something out of a genetic pool to appear designed.
Originally posted by nophun
Originally posted by dzonatas
reply to post by nophun
Let's get to the root difference between Intelligent Design and Evolution. The difference is Intelligence itself. The person into Intelligent Design tries to prove that Intelligence existed before Design. Those in Evolution says it doesn't matter and that it could be pure natural chance for something out of a genetic pool to appear designed.
This is the thing. Even if something looks designed, and there is still not evidence supporting a designer it is not science or fact.
Lets look at this rock in France.
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It is close to a perfect sphere. I could easily say my god Ralph created this on the 4th day of creation.
I would never be able to prove it, no matter how designed this rock looks Science shows us this rock is formed from splash erosion (water).
Your problem here is that you say science shows us, and swallow it as being true for sure, as though nobody has any reason to tell you a different story, science shows us, we must decide and research and cross correlate. a rock forming like this may well happen, but a rock is basically a moot point when compared to the cell. I find it hard at times to criticize those "Creationist" because it is not an illogical conclusion to arrive at to assert that, when looking at the cell, in all its technological Marvell, that we are indeed viewing something that has been designed for purpose...
I am not 100 per cne sure of either argument but remain interested hugely in answers!!
No matter how much my rock looks like it had a designer there is nothing proving it and science is giving us clear picture of what made this rock a near perfect sphere.
This is the difference in Evolution and Creation .. One is based on facts the other belief.
I got to run I will be back to finish in a bit
[edit on 27-2-2010 by nophun]
Originally posted by dzonatas
reply to post by nophun
Even if something looks designed, and there is still not evidence supporting a designer it is not science or fact.
Originally posted by DeathShield
It would make sense for an intelligent being of SOME SORT to introduce a system that self-modifies it's "hardware" and "Software" and adapts itself to new conditions.
Originally posted by maria_stardust
reply to post by dzonatas
The problem with your little logic game is that you're assuming
Why even venture in this exercise of obvious futility. It adds nothing to your argument.
Originally posted by maria_stardust
Once again you are are attempting to argue this on a philosophical level, and not a scientific one. As such it is insanity to even attempt equate one with the other as they are not even on the same proverbial playing field.
Originally posted by Zenithar
reply to post by nophun
My problem with this post is that you, and most other "evolutionists" always feel the need to go up against and/or disprove creationism, instead of just looking at evolution itself and really scrutinizing it, its processes and the probabilities of all this happening by pure accident.
Originally posted by Zenithar
reply to post by nophun
I believe evolution does occur in some form, animals surly change over time(although clearly for some reason not everywhere?, i can post many examples of creatures that have not changed in millions of years if you want).
When you consider this, HOW DOES apparent randomness(which is just a term describing the unpredictable or misunderstood!) lead to obvious purpose, within animals, communities and organs, each and every one of your cells, be it liver heart or brain, don't wander aimlessly around your body but perform specific life sustaining tasks
I look at it architecturally... not philosophically.