Does it bother you that you believe some people will end up in Hell?

reply to post by Lilitu


While I also mourn for death like any other compassionate person, God is not void of compassion for an animal dying. Now hear me out, since if you are true in your words of angst towards God, an animal is the most you can understand humans to be. More so, regarding the death of a child, no one is privy to whether or not that child's soul and new body are passed to the eternal life of animals made into gods, or to the death of death.

Why is it that everyone always believes that humans deserve a certain level of gentle treatment? What is it that justifies us in our arrogant expectations? What of the unseen do we see that we have the right to deny a Creator simply because we condemn what They have done with Their Creation? And if there is no Creator, then what do you make of the spiritual progress of the few vs. the great corruption of mankind in the many?

Is Order a mutation of evolution? Is Charity a mutation of evolution? Pride is the mutation. Chaos is the mutation. Some were given the right to become more than animals and some have taken the same longsuffering of God and have become Pride and/or Chaos.

Just because the Christians have made a form of pornography/idolatry out of the death of Christ rather than "living as Christ" and you are able to see how shallow the false believers have become, it does not necessitate that the truly faithful are also blind. You are right to despise what the supposed church has done in history. Just as many of the Pharisees were not God's sheep despite their large expectation otherwise, those of today who claim to have faith and yet live as the city and it's tower are also not God's sheep.

You have certainly seen what is wrong with the modern church. Now look to our progress away from being basic animals and understand that our ability to be more godly than animals (and our ability to more "demonic" than they) declare that there is something much more than this natural realm and that those things are gifts. The tower does truly fall if it is not built by God.

reply to post by Donnie Darko
I have a question. You say you're a Christian, yet Jesus Christ taught more about Hell than anyone else in the Bible. Do you think Jesus was lying? What's your angle?

You're forgetting that Hell was created for Satan and the fallen angels, not man. When man rebelled against God then man was destined to go there with the others who rebelled against God. Jesus came to redeem man from that date with Hell, and instead of making it hard for a man to get to heaven, he instead made eternal life a FREE GIFT to anyone who asks for it. That's pretty simple.

Yes, God is Love, Mercy, Compassion, but you're cherry-picking God's attributes when you also fail to see that God is perfect justice, and that God hates sin and rebellion. If God failed to punish those who didn't want to be saved then he would no longer be just, His mercy would be impotent if there was no punishment.

Originally posted by Sozen94
Didn't God say that he loves everyone no matter what and that he will forgive everyone? If that is true then why is there a Hell in the first place.

If anything, I believe in re-incarnation. Seems much more realistic than Heaven or Hell.

But, as they say, it is better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven.

Where did you get that? God never said that. In fact, take the example of Jacob and Esau. He said, "Jacob I loved, Esau I hated.."

Ahh, forgot to answer your Q:

On Earth it bothers me GREATLY that many people I know and care about, heck people I don't even know will not choose life over death. It hurts. But I also know that the Word states that there will be no tears in heaven, no sadness, so that leaves me to logically believe that when we're in heaven we won't remember those of our loved ones that were "lost".

It doesn't bother me. My religion believes that quite few people will be bad enough to actually end up in Hell, and those few probably really earned it.