WOW! Why not just legalize marijuana and tax it? Seems anyone that wants it can get it anyway...might as well put the drug dealers out of business and
solve the economy in 1 step.
Washington state Governor proposes 1 cent per OUNCE tax on BOTTLED WATER, page 1
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Topic started on 17-2-2010 @ 08:51 PM by seattletruth
I really can't believe this. Drinking non-chlorinated, possibly non-fluoridated water is now considered a luxury for the rich by Washington
State governor. I was watching local news today while waiting for the Olympics coverage and saw she is publicly calling for a one cent per OUNCE
tax on bottled water!!
blogs.evergreen.edu...
I can guarantee this blog is telling the truth; the governer actually called for this on local news stations. I watched it with my own eyes.
If passed, this will raise bottled water to be much more expensive than pop, even. I really can't believe this. It's insane. A 20 oz bottle of water will literally cost almost $2.
Insanity.
Pretty soon, in WA state, we can have 4 options when we're walking around town, and get thirsty:
1. Risk getting facial herpes because the water pressure in the drinking fountain is too low.
2. Buy a bottle of carbonated, hydrogenated high fructose corn syrup with some riboflavin for extra value.
3. Pay even MORE in taxes than the pop for for a bottle of WATER to drink.
4. Walk around all day with a water bottle like it's a colostomy bag.
Things like this will break the straw on the camels back. Even the loyal "trusters" of the government will start to have had enough.
People really want this?
First they came for your cigarettes, and because you don't smoke, you didn't care.
Then they came for your liquor, but because you don't drink, you didn't care.
NOW THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR BOTTLED WATER.
Oh wait, you don't drink bottled water. So you STILL don't care. This is about PRINCIPLES, even if you don't drink bottled water.
Let's think of some other GREAT ways to raise revenue, shall we?
Next they will say disposable diapers are a luxury, just use a cloth. It's more environmentally safe. 20 cent per diaper tax. Great idea!
Next they will say tampons are a luxury. Use a rag. It's more environmentally friendly. 20 cent per tampon tax. HOORAY.
Next they will say condoms are filling up our landfills. Just pull out. 20 cent per condom tax. NOW we can hire more governmental employees YIPPEE!
It's time to draw the line in the sand. Wake up Washington state!
[edit on 17-2-2010 by seattletruth]
[edit on 17-2-2010 by seattletruth]
blogs.evergreen.edu...
I can guarantee this blog is telling the truth; the governer actually called for this on local news stations. I watched it with my own eyes.
If passed, this will raise bottled water to be much more expensive than pop, even. I really can't believe this. It's insane. A 20 oz bottle of water will literally cost almost $2.
Screw the TEA party, I'm founding the WATER PARTY MOVEMENT.
Insanity.
Pretty soon, in WA state, we can have 4 options when we're walking around town, and get thirsty:
1. Risk getting facial herpes because the water pressure in the drinking fountain is too low.
2. Buy a bottle of carbonated, hydrogenated high fructose corn syrup with some riboflavin for extra value.
3. Pay even MORE in taxes than the pop for for a bottle of WATER to drink.
4. Walk around all day with a water bottle like it's a colostomy bag.
Things like this will break the straw on the camels back. Even the loyal "trusters" of the government will start to have had enough.
People really want this?
First they came for your cigarettes, and because you don't smoke, you didn't care.
Then they came for your liquor, but because you don't drink, you didn't care.
NOW THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR BOTTLED WATER.
Oh wait, you don't drink bottled water. So you STILL don't care. This is about PRINCIPLES, even if you don't drink bottled water.
Let's think of some other GREAT ways to raise revenue, shall we?
Next they will say disposable diapers are a luxury, just use a cloth. It's more environmentally safe. 20 cent per diaper tax. Great idea!
Next they will say tampons are a luxury. Use a rag. It's more environmentally friendly. 20 cent per tampon tax. HOORAY.
Next they will say condoms are filling up our landfills. Just pull out. 20 cent per condom tax. NOW we can hire more governmental employees YIPPEE!
It's time to draw the line in the sand. Wake up Washington state!
[edit on 17-2-2010 by seattletruth]
[edit on 17-2-2010 by seattletruth]
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:09 PM by seattletruth
reply to post by dereks
What are you doing here? This isn't the 9/11 board!
Typical that you would support the government at every opportunity, though, without questioning.
Do you realize that not everybody has option of good tap water? Many businesses buy huge things of bottled water for their employees break rooms. The have water coolers at work.
YES. Those are all "bottled water". Do you think its a good idea to make water coolers unaffordable to the unemployed? What about people without easy access to tap? What about people with nasty tap water (there are many). Many people buy water coolers for home. Not all rooms that have water coolers have plumbing to hook up a 'filter'.
Do you really think that water should be a luxury??
GO BIG GOVERNMENT GOOOOO.. TAX US SOME MORE AND WASTE THE MONEY!!! YAYYY
You people who support this are the reason why our country is dying.
[edit on 17-2-2010 by seattletruth]
What are you doing here? This isn't the 9/11 board!
Typical that you would support the government at every opportunity, though, without questioning.
Do you realize that not everybody has option of good tap water? Many businesses buy huge things of bottled water for their employees break rooms. The have water coolers at work.
YES. Those are all "bottled water". Do you think its a good idea to make water coolers unaffordable to the unemployed? What about people without easy access to tap? What about people with nasty tap water (there are many). Many people buy water coolers for home. Not all rooms that have water coolers have plumbing to hook up a 'filter'.
Do you really think that water should be a luxury??
GO BIG GOVERNMENT GOOOOO.. TAX US SOME MORE AND WASTE THE MONEY!!! YAYYY
You people who support this are the reason why our country is dying.
[edit on 17-2-2010 by seattletruth]
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:21 PM by iamsupermanv2
reply to post by xstealth
Dasani is filtered tap.
All bottled water is.
I'm sorry, but paying for it is kind of retarded. I only buy it for the convenience.
They should tax the hell out of the thing. All that plastic does just as much damage to the earth as anything else.
If it's poison we'd all be dead.
[edit on 2/17/2010 by iamsupermanv2]
Dasani is filtered tap.
All bottled water is.
I'm sorry, but paying for it is kind of retarded. I only buy it for the convenience.
They should tax the hell out of the thing. All that plastic does just as much damage to the earth as anything else.
If it's poison we'd all be dead.
[edit on 2/17/2010 by iamsupermanv2]
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:37 PM by dolphinfan
reply to post by seattletruth
You are spot on, my friend. In many parts of this state the tap water is not healthy. Kitsap, parts of Pierce and Mason counties for sure have a big problem with arsenic in the water supply. Bottled water is a solution,as are things like the Brita and Zero water systems.
Your best bet is to invest in one of those 5gl bottle systems and fill up water bottles.
You are spot on, my friend. In many parts of this state the tap water is not healthy. Kitsap, parts of Pierce and Mason counties for sure have a big problem with arsenic in the water supply. Bottled water is a solution,as are things like the Brita and Zero water systems.
Your best bet is to invest in one of those 5gl bottle systems and fill up water bottles.
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:40 PM by xstealth
Originally posted by iamsupermanv2
reply to post by xstealth
Dasani is filtered tap.
All bottled water is.
[edit on 2/17/2010 by iamsupermanv2]
True, but tap water isn't treated with reverse osmosis.
Just because it doesn't kill you overnight doesn't mean it isn't poison.
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:43 PM by iamsupermanv2
reply to post by xstealth
If you haven't noticed, bottled water is a new thing.
Our ancestors drank well water straight from the well.
Pond scum water.
Muddy water.
Water with all sorts of things in it.
Yet, humanity survived.
If you haven't noticed, bottled water is a new thing.
Our ancestors drank well water straight from the well.
Pond scum water.
Muddy water.
Water with all sorts of things in it.
Yet, humanity survived.
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 10:04 PM by seattletruth
reply to post by iamsupermanv2
Yes, they survived, but the average longevity was much lower.
Yes, if you want clean, pure, water, this is a LUXURY FOR THE RICH.
Not for you!!
TAX TAX TAX TAX. People also didn't have sox in the past. Or underwear. Or shoes. We need a 400% tax on these things, cause people lived without them.
Yes, they survived, but the average longevity was much lower.
Yes, if you want clean, pure, water, this is a LUXURY FOR THE RICH.
Not for you!!
TAX TAX TAX TAX. People also didn't have sox in the past. Or underwear. Or shoes. We need a 400% tax on these things, cause people lived without them.
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 10:09 PM by Seattleparanormal
reply to post by seattletruth
Benefits of Bottled Water Taxation Which May Reduce Consumption of Bottled Water
Financial Benefits
• Creates revenue. In Chicago where there is a 5 cent tax on bottled water, the sale of bottle water brought in $10.5 million to the city in 2007.
• Saves taxpayer dollars by supporting tap water. We pay for the infrastructure that makes tap water safe to drink and accessible in our homes and businesses.
• Saves consumer dollars. Tap water costs about $0.002 per gallon compared to the $0.89 to $8.26 per gallon charge for bottled water. If the water we use at home cost what even the cheapest bottled water costs, our average monthly family water bills would run $9000.
Protects the Environment
• Reduces plastic in our landfills. Eight of every ten water bottles are not recycled and end up in landfills. The Container Recycling Institute says that plastic water bottles are disposed of (not recycled) at the rate of 30 million a day.
• Fossil fuels used to create plastic contribute to global warming and pollution.
• Around the world, bottling water uses about 2.7 million tons of plastic….each year.
Less energy consumption
• Production of plastic (PET or polyethylene) bottles to meet our demand for bottled water takes the equivalent of about 17.6 million barrels of oil a year (not including transportation costs). That equals the amount of oil required to fuel more than one million vehicles in the U.S. each year.
Reduces Consumer Exposure to Possible Health/Safety Hazards
• Tap water is regulated by the Environmental Protection Agency. Bottled water is checked by the Federal Food and Drug Agency which has limited resources and requires that companies self-enforce the rules.
• Municipal water is not permitted to contain fecal coliform bacteria. FDA rules for bottled water include no such prohibitions.
• Municipal water from surface sources must be filtered and disinfected, or it must have strict pollution controls. There are no filtration or disinfection requirements for bottled water at the federal level. The only source-water protection, filtration, or disinfection provisions for bottled water are delegated to the states, and many states have adopted no meaningful programs.
• Cities must have their water tested by government-certified labs. No certification requirement exists for bottlers.
• Water bottles, though cleaned are not sterilized.
• Plastic bottles contain phthalate, a chemical which, when heated even by the sun, begin to leach into the contents of the bottle.
• Phthalates may cause reproductive difficulties, liver problems, and increased risk of cancer.
• While phthalates are regulated in tap water, the FDA maintains an exemption for bottled water.
• Municipal water has an advantage in that it is constantly moving, keeping it fresh and avoiding stagnancy.
Nearly 40 percent of bottled water is tap water with added minerals or filtration and there’s no guaranteed safety just because it’s wrapped in plastic. It is the responsibility of our civic leaders to strengthen support for public water systems. Bottled water undermines support for public water systems. There is a 22 billion dollar gap between what U.S. cities need to spend on water infrastructure and available money which provides future water reliability.
When cities and states use taxpayer dollars to buy bottled water for offices, meetings, and events at hundreds to thousands of times the cost of tap water it signals to the public that something must be wrong with the quality of tap water. This erodes support for adequately funding public water systems. Governors and mayors should champion their public water systems and send a strong message about the high quality of the tap water that they deliver.
Benefits of Bottled Water Taxation Which May Reduce Consumption of Bottled Water
Financial Benefits
• Creates revenue. In Chicago where there is a 5 cent tax on bottled water, the sale of bottle water brought in $10.5 million to the city in 2007.
• Saves taxpayer dollars by supporting tap water. We pay for the infrastructure that makes tap water safe to drink and accessible in our homes and businesses.
• Saves consumer dollars. Tap water costs about $0.002 per gallon compared to the $0.89 to $8.26 per gallon charge for bottled water. If the water we use at home cost what even the cheapest bottled water costs, our average monthly family water bills would run $9000.
Protects the Environment
• Reduces plastic in our landfills. Eight of every ten water bottles are not recycled and end up in landfills. The Container Recycling Institute says that plastic water bottles are disposed of (not recycled) at the rate of 30 million a day.
• Fossil fuels used to create plastic contribute to global warming and pollution.
• Around the world, bottling water uses about 2.7 million tons of plastic….each year.
Less energy consumption
• Production of plastic (PET or polyethylene) bottles to meet our demand for bottled water takes the equivalent of about 17.6 million barrels of oil a year (not including transportation costs). That equals the amount of oil required to fuel more than one million vehicles in the U.S. each year.
Reduces Consumer Exposure to Possible Health/Safety Hazards
• Tap water is regulated by the Environmental Protection Agency. Bottled water is checked by the Federal Food and Drug Agency which has limited resources and requires that companies self-enforce the rules.
• Municipal water is not permitted to contain fecal coliform bacteria. FDA rules for bottled water include no such prohibitions.
• Municipal water from surface sources must be filtered and disinfected, or it must have strict pollution controls. There are no filtration or disinfection requirements for bottled water at the federal level. The only source-water protection, filtration, or disinfection provisions for bottled water are delegated to the states, and many states have adopted no meaningful programs.
• Cities must have their water tested by government-certified labs. No certification requirement exists for bottlers.
• Water bottles, though cleaned are not sterilized.
• Plastic bottles contain phthalate, a chemical which, when heated even by the sun, begin to leach into the contents of the bottle.
• Phthalates may cause reproductive difficulties, liver problems, and increased risk of cancer.
• While phthalates are regulated in tap water, the FDA maintains an exemption for bottled water.
• Municipal water has an advantage in that it is constantly moving, keeping it fresh and avoiding stagnancy.
Nearly 40 percent of bottled water is tap water with added minerals or filtration and there’s no guaranteed safety just because it’s wrapped in plastic. It is the responsibility of our civic leaders to strengthen support for public water systems. Bottled water undermines support for public water systems. There is a 22 billion dollar gap between what U.S. cities need to spend on water infrastructure and available money which provides future water reliability.
When cities and states use taxpayer dollars to buy bottled water for offices, meetings, and events at hundreds to thousands of times the cost of tap water it signals to the public that something must be wrong with the quality of tap water. This erodes support for adequately funding public water systems. Governors and mayors should champion their public water systems and send a strong message about the high quality of the tap water that they deliver.
reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 10:13 PM by iamsupermanv2
reply to post by seattletruth
It seems to me that you are complaining about a tax that will effect your daily life.
That's all and good, but come on....
This is not saying WATER is a luxury. It is saying BOTTLED water is a luxury.
You can boil tap water, filter it through a brita, just to suggestions.
It'd be much better to focus energy on another, more meaningful cause.
Yes, we should always be on watch for pointless taxing...but this is not one of them. Many states need to pull money from different parts of the economy to keep themselves afloat. That's why we have sin tax...people will buy them regardless.
People will buy bottled water regardless. I know when I am at the gas station on a road trip and need something to quench my pallet, I will go with a nice cold bottle of Ozarka. I'm sure you would too.
My suggestion...if this is really that big of a deal to you, write your congressman. Write your favorite bottled water dispenser.
Or boycott bottled water.
And the attempt to use soCKS is poor. I also see socks as a luxury quite honestly.
Look, you aren't complaining that poor people in poor countries don't get clean water...maybe that should be your cause. This is petty. Very petty.
It seems to me that you are complaining about a tax that will effect your daily life.
That's all and good, but come on....
This is not saying WATER is a luxury. It is saying BOTTLED water is a luxury.
You can boil tap water, filter it through a brita, just to suggestions.
It'd be much better to focus energy on another, more meaningful cause.
Yes, we should always be on watch for pointless taxing...but this is not one of them. Many states need to pull money from different parts of the economy to keep themselves afloat. That's why we have sin tax...people will buy them regardless.
People will buy bottled water regardless. I know when I am at the gas station on a road trip and need something to quench my pallet, I will go with a nice cold bottle of Ozarka. I'm sure you would too.
My suggestion...if this is really that big of a deal to you, write your congressman. Write your favorite bottled water dispenser.
Or boycott bottled water.
And the attempt to use soCKS is poor. I also see socks as a luxury quite honestly.
Look, you aren't complaining that poor people in poor countries don't get clean water...maybe that should be your cause. This is petty. Very petty.
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