I believe the two parties are attempting to divide the TPM. That is about the whole kit and kabootle.
Anyone that is an Incumbent this year better not go purchasing or leasing a place, they will not need it following November.
I do hope some independents get in and I hope all the people elected are outsiders.
When will the asshats realize they HAVE to spend within the budget. It IS really that frelling simple!
Rand Paul, thrilled with Palin endorsement 2-3-10, page 1
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reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 02:39 PM by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by endisnighe
I'm assuming that TPM means tea party movement..
It looks mostly like republicans are tryin to divide it, or maybe just swallow it up. Makes sense since most of the TPM are PO'd republicans anyways. I just don't understand why everyone is so quick to embrace Palin.
This sounds like a good idea, but I have evidence that maybe just the fact that one is in power creates corruption and loss of morality..
check it out....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I believe the two parties are attempting to divide the TPM.
I'm assuming that TPM means tea party movement..
It looks mostly like republicans are tryin to divide it, or maybe just swallow it up. Makes sense since most of the TPM are PO'd republicans anyways. I just don't understand why everyone is so quick to embrace Palin.
I do hope some independents get in and I hope all the people elected are outsiders.
This sounds like a good idea, but I have evidence that maybe just the fact that one is in power creates corruption and loss of morality..
check it out....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 05:24 AM by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by Locoman8
yer a dead ringer for sarah palin.
I can kind of see that. I just think there are better options. I'm not a right or left thinking kind of guy, I'm just fan of common sense. If yer on the left Kucinich makes a lot of sense, if yer on the right, Paul. Those 2 cover every major perspective from multiple angles yet still apply a huge dosage of common sense. More than I can say for Palin. She doesn't appeal to any particular side, she's just a pop culture megastar, and what a stupid reason to be voted for....Someone like this will just get manipulated buy the staff around her a la Bush. She's way to weak to be a good president.
who's to say where it belongs, maybe it simply doesn't belong?
explain
the tea party movement has been a complete failure. It in fact might even be Ron Paul's undoing. Check this out....
www.dallasnews.com...
it'll be an interesting decade huh?
First of, GO RAND.... GO!!!
yer a dead ringer for sarah palin.
I don't agree with her on many issues. Mainly the issue on the war on terror and the empire building of America. What I do find appealing about Sarah is that she seems genuine. She seems as if she truely believes in what she's saying. She wants to make this country a better place and she seems like a true, down to roots American.
I can kind of see that. I just think there are better options. I'm not a right or left thinking kind of guy, I'm just fan of common sense. If yer on the left Kucinich makes a lot of sense, if yer on the right, Paul. Those 2 cover every major perspective from multiple angles yet still apply a huge dosage of common sense. More than I can say for Palin. She doesn't appeal to any particular side, she's just a pop culture megastar, and what a stupid reason to be voted for....Someone like this will just get manipulated buy the staff around her a la Bush. She's way to weak to be a good president.
Maybe she's the spark to push the Republican party back in it's "middle right" place in which it belongs.
who's to say where it belongs, maybe it simply doesn't belong?
Right now the party is taken over by a bunch of neo-cons and progressives.
explain
I do agree that angry republican racists and single-minded people have definitely hurt the tea party movement but lets remember who started this movement in the first place.... RON PAUL and his rEVOLution! Keep it going with the right reasons in mind. Not just dissatisfaction from Obama but also from congress and the justices. TERM LIMITS FOR ALL!!! STAY BOUND BY OUR CONSTITUTION!!!
the tea party movement has been a complete failure. It in fact might even be Ron Paul's undoing. Check this out....
www.dallasnews.com...
I think we are walking the tight rope of a revolution/civil war to be honest with you. Peace.
it'll be an interesting decade huh?
reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 05:55 AM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by liquidsmoke206
Rand Paul is a political nobody.
Sarah Palin is a mediawhoredarling.
of course he's thrilled. he must feel like the fat kid getting a handjob from the head cheerleader right now.
'Course, it's kind of a moot point, since the Republican Party is sinking like an iceberg hit it.
Rand Paul is a political nobody.
Sarah Palin is a media
of course he's thrilled. he must feel like the fat kid getting a handjob from the head cheerleader right now.
'Course, it's kind of a moot point, since the Republican Party is sinking like an iceberg hit it.
reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 11:35 AM by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by SaturnFX
I know it's still early, but this the funniest thing I've heard all day.
You made some good points about Palin, I too thought the notes were odd....why would she need to write that stuff down? and on her hand?
I missed Paul on Maddow, I'll have to look that up, embed it if you want, it's relevant to this thread.
So long as she remembers to write down what she believes on her hand.
I know it's still early, but this the funniest thing I've heard all day. You made some good points about Palin, I too thought the notes were odd....why would she need to write that stuff down? and on her hand?
I missed Paul on Maddow, I'll have to look that up, embed it if you want, it's relevant to this thread.
reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 11:42 AM by Sean48
reply to post by liquidsmoke206
Judging by the turnout at Palin's Tea Party Convention, I think the only ones
who think she is the leader , is her and the MSM.
Rand speaks the langauge of the TPM, he mirrors their concerns.
Palin is just a distraction used by the GOP to fracture the TPM, and hope
to swing those votes toward it.
Palin will be no where near the ticket in 3 years , her 15 minutes will be
long over.
Judging by the turnout at Palin's Tea Party Convention, I think the only ones
who think she is the leader , is her and the MSM.
Rand speaks the langauge of the TPM, he mirrors their concerns.
Palin is just a distraction used by the GOP to fracture the TPM, and hope
to swing those votes toward it.
Palin will be no where near the ticket in 3 years , her 15 minutes will be
long over.
reply posted on 11-2-2010 @ 05:04 AM by Locoman8
Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by Locoman8
First of, GO RAND.... GO!!!
yer a dead ringer for sarah palin.
What is that suppose to mean? My support is with Rand and Ron Paul. I am a Libertarian natured kind of guy. I don't see myself as a republican or democrat.
I don't agree with her on many issues. Mainly the issue on the war on terror and the empire building of America. What I do find appealing about Sarah is that she seems genuine. She seems as if she truely believes in what she's saying. She wants to make this country a better place and she seems like a true, down to roots American.
I can kind of see that. I just think there are better options. I'm not a right or left thinking kind of guy, I'm just fan of common sense. If yer on the left Kucinich makes a lot of sense, if yer on the right, Paul. Those 2 cover every major perspective from multiple angles yet still apply a huge dosage of common sense. More than I can say for Palin. She doesn't appeal to any particular side, she's just a pop culture megastar, and what a stupid reason to be voted for....Someone like this will just get manipulated buy the staff around her a la Bush. She's way to weak to be a good president.
Of course there are better options. If only people would actually vote for them. Palin still identifies with many Americans despite all her flaws. She reminds me of a (forgive me for saying it) Bill Clinton connecting with people as a small town governor of a small southern state. Take away the small, southern part of the state and make it less populated, then change the gender and shed 20 years and you'll have Sarah Palin. I don't agree with her but I understand her motives which aren't bad.
Maybe she's the spark to push the Republican party back in it's "middle right" place in which it belongs.
who's to say where it belongs, maybe it simply doesn't belong?
Maybe it doesn't. Maybe the political system in this country should be based on more than just 2 parties. I hate the 2 party system. You're always stuck choosing between the lesser of two evils such as Obama or McCain. Sure there are other third-party candidates but we know write-ins will never get the support they need by the media.
Right now the party is taken over by a bunch of neo-cons and progressives.
explain
Neo-cons such as Bush, Cheney, and many other republicans out of touch with the American people. They only play politics. The R next to the name of someone is all that matters to them.
Progressives are people who believe in the better good of the collective at the expense of our individual freedoms. If person A makes more money than Persons B and C then Person A has to give up some of his/her money and distribute it to Persons B and C. It's the Robin Hood effect. It's Socialism at its worst. Obama, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Tim Geithner, Cass Sunstein, Van Jones, Hllary Clinton, etc... are all progressives.
I do agree that angry republican racists and single-minded people have definitely hurt the tea party movement but lets remember who started this movement in the first place.... RON PAUL and his rEVOLution! Keep it going with the right reasons in mind. Not just dissatisfaction from Obama but also from congress and the justices. TERM LIMITS FOR ALL!!! STAY BOUND BY OUR CONSTITUTION!!!
the tea party movement has been a complete failure. It in fact might even be Ron Paul's undoing. Check this out....
www.dallasnews.com...
Maybe so, but the true root of the tea party movement is still alive and well. Most are libertarian minded or independents tired of the same old game being played and our debt getting way out of hand.
I think we are walking the tight rope of a revolution/civil war to be honest with you. Peace.
it'll be an interesting decade huh?
Yes, if the 2012 doomsday doesn't hit us first
[edit on 2/11/2010 by Locoman8]
reply posted on 11-2-2010 @ 06:04 AM by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by Locoman8
I was making a funny, since the thread is about palin supporting Rand, and then you also come out supporting Rand. Hence yer a dead ringer..get it? no? aw nevermind.
I just find it so hard to believe that people are dumb enough to get behind a media blitz of cheap rhetoric, and actually be able to identify with it. We're very likely doomed...
screw the media, they get my support. Not that I strictly vote third party, but I research all the people on my ballot and pick accordingly. A candidates media status means nothing me. Some people might say I'm wasting my vote, but often times the 2 major parties act like one in the same...how can you call it not wasting a vote when you vote for the same thing either way? Thats a true waste.
I think it works more like this...both parties are out of touch with you(try this thread for more on power and how it corrupts).calling people progressives and neocons just adds to the division of the populace...it doesn't actually mean anything as they both want essentially the same thing in terms of economics, foreign policy, liberty to name a few. So where do they differ? On a few social issues to keep you busy(after all economics, foriegn policy and suck is too difficult to understand for the average person) such as...abortion, gay rights, guns, to name a few.
To address socialism...well I'm not necessarily against it, I just dont think its needed. I certainly don't understand how someone could be more scared of socialism than of the person at the top of the company making thousands of times what the person at the bottom makes. It's frightening that all these socialismphobes to find that frightening in my opinion. See how bass akwards they have you thinking?
I guess time will tell, but if you ask me it's looking like it's DOA.
nothing would be more interesting than that.
-liquid
What is that suppose to mean?
I was making a funny, since the thread is about palin supporting Rand, and then you also come out supporting Rand. Hence yer a dead ringer..get it? no? aw nevermind.
Palin still identifies with many Americans despite all her flaws.
I just find it so hard to believe that people are dumb enough to get behind a media blitz of cheap rhetoric, and actually be able to identify with it. We're very likely doomed...
Sure there are other third-party candidates but we know write-ins will never get the support they need by the media.
screw the media, they get my support. Not that I strictly vote third party, but I research all the people on my ballot and pick accordingly. A candidates media status means nothing me. Some people might say I'm wasting my vote, but often times the 2 major parties act like one in the same...how can you call it not wasting a vote when you vote for the same thing either way? Thats a true waste.
Neo-cons such as Bush, Cheney, and many other republicans out of touch with the American people. They only play politics. The R next to the name of someone is all that matters to them.
Progressives are people who believe in the better good of the collective at the expense of our individual freedoms. If person A makes more money than Persons B and C then Person A has to give up some of his/her money and distribute it to Persons B and C. It's the Robin Hood effect. It's Socialism at its worst. Obama, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Tim Geithner, Cass Sunstein, Van Jones, Hllary Clinton, etc... are all progressives.
I think it works more like this...both parties are out of touch with you(try this thread for more on power and how it corrupts).calling people progressives and neocons just adds to the division of the populace...it doesn't actually mean anything as they both want essentially the same thing in terms of economics, foreign policy, liberty to name a few. So where do they differ? On a few social issues to keep you busy(after all economics, foriegn policy and suck is too difficult to understand for the average person) such as...abortion, gay rights, guns, to name a few.
To address socialism...well I'm not necessarily against it, I just dont think its needed. I certainly don't understand how someone could be more scared of socialism than of the person at the top of the company making thousands of times what the person at the bottom makes. It's frightening that all these socialismphobes to find that frightening in my opinion. See how bass akwards they have you thinking?
Maybe so, but the true root of the tea party movement is still alive and well. Most are libertarian minded or independents tired of the same old game being played and our debt getting way out of hand.
I guess time will tell, but if you ask me it's looking like it's DOA.
Yes, if the 2012 doomsday doesn't hit us first
nothing would be more interesting than that.
-liquid
reply posted on 11-2-2010 @ 10:57 PM by Locoman8
reply to post by liquidsmoke206
Socialism is bad in the fact that the government takes your money and gives it to someone else. The guys on the top making a butt load of money did it by living the American dream under capitalism. I know many of these folks are corrupt since money does that to people but to take money from someone who earns it and give it to someone who didn't earn it is wrong in my opinion. It's forced charity. I'm charitable but I don't want people making me give money to someone I don't know. That's what's wrong about socialism. Not to mention the government control of nearly every aspect of our lives. Peace.
Socialism is bad in the fact that the government takes your money and gives it to someone else. The guys on the top making a butt load of money did it by living the American dream under capitalism. I know many of these folks are corrupt since money does that to people but to take money from someone who earns it and give it to someone who didn't earn it is wrong in my opinion. It's forced charity. I'm charitable but I don't want people making me give money to someone I don't know. That's what's wrong about socialism. Not to mention the government control of nearly every aspect of our lives. Peace.
reply posted on 12-2-2010 @ 02:15 PM by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by Locoman8
it's the idea that you think these insanely rich people actually earned or deserve the amount of money they make is disturbing. Thats very naive on your part. We're kind of off topic now, but it seems to me yer priorities all whacked.
they may have earned the money "fair and square" in terms of the law, but that doesn't make it right unless yer mindless robot who believes that system can do no wrong.
You seem to think it's worse to pay into a system that supplies needs for everyone then to let a few people make an unjust amount of money simply because they have the right.
there's a bigger picture happening and your not seeing it.
you can't tell me this is not what happens in your typical multibillion dollar corporation. The guy at the bottom works his butt off the guy at the top pays him enough to live, if that, and keeps the rest for himself. Then they tell you they "earned" it because they are the ones deciding their own salaries......and you just buy right into it hook line and sinker....
and again, I'm not an advocate of socialism in general, but you can't justify the salaries and bonuses of rich scumbags...
[edit on 12-2-2010 by liquidsmoke206]
it's the idea that you think these insanely rich people actually earned or deserve the amount of money they make is disturbing. Thats very naive on your part. We're kind of off topic now, but it seems to me yer priorities all whacked.
they may have earned the money "fair and square" in terms of the law, but that doesn't make it right unless yer mindless robot who believes that system can do no wrong.
You seem to think it's worse to pay into a system that supplies needs for everyone then to let a few people make an unjust amount of money simply because they have the right.
there's a bigger picture happening and your not seeing it.
to take money from someone who earns it and give it to someone who didn't earn it is wrong in my opinion.
you can't tell me this is not what happens in your typical multibillion dollar corporation. The guy at the bottom works his butt off the guy at the top pays him enough to live, if that, and keeps the rest for himself. Then they tell you they "earned" it because they are the ones deciding their own salaries......and you just buy right into it hook line and sinker....
and again, I'm not an advocate of socialism in general, but you can't justify the salaries and bonuses of rich scumbags...
[edit on 12-2-2010 by liquidsmoke206]
reply posted on 12-2-2010 @ 02:41 PM by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by KrazyJethro
well, lets not forget Rand is his own man, and he does in fact disagree with Ron Paul on some pretty serious topics. You gotta kind of take an endorsement from Palin as a good thing if you're Rand, but I just think that anything she touches will become toxic so to speak...
well, lets not forget Rand is his own man, and he does in fact disagree with Ron Paul on some pretty serious topics. You gotta kind of take an endorsement from Palin as a good thing if you're Rand, but I just think that anything she touches will become toxic so to speak...
3-4 years later, after being strongly anti-Obama....I will be voting for him for a second term.
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