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Originally posted by unityemissions
You will probably hear many varied opinions. That's all I'm providing. An opinion. It seems you mixed up your brainwave state pretty well! Doing what you did jumbled your brain up alot. I think what you experienced was the result of a disintegration of mind via an induced seizure, and the overwhelming sense of fear. I don't think this was a lower astral, as you put it, but just a reflection of your inability to conquer your fear while in this state. Not that the experience would have been pleasant if you just didn't fear. It seems that the jumbling that took place was just too much for your system to handle. If you wish to continue trying to have these experiences, I suggest you try a different method.
Originally posted by NuclearPaul
reply to post by kaskade
It will probably take you a couple of days, at least, to recover from this.
This is what can happen trying to astral travel without protecting yourself.
Originally posted by vjr1113
I've gone into a shadow like state before. Where all the colors where contrasted. It didn't feel good and and I got paralysis too. I had to concentrate real hard on my body to come back. Weird thing was I saw my body laying on my bed.
I have no clue what you experience but I'll stick around to read. Good luck.
Originally posted by wildcat117
Ok, I know this is going to sound pretty far out, but there is a chance you might have even had a partial bilocation / botched teleport event.
I've actually had an experience very similar to this myself while attempting to teleport, but after the violent twitching, the paralysis, the failed attempts to shout and the "pins and needles x 1000" I experienced a sensation like the tearing of a sheet of paper that started from my head and went down to my toes over the span of half a second or so. I felt the sensation of multiple presences all around me, suffered an extreme disorientation/panic as I felt like I was flung about in all directions at once and then disoriented and confused as two discreet sets of sensory input from two different locations came into "my" consciousness.
When the "Second me" was materializing, a second set of perceptions seemed to move through a piece of furniture extremely fast in as state alomst like an "energy mist" (but not exactly like an astral projection, which I've had before... I could feel the furniture even while passing through it... very hard to describe, almost like the physical object was made up of the energy static like on a TV with no signal. Tingly.) and then suddenly I was looking at myself from two perspectives at the same time.
By now the pins and needles died down to a mild, pleasent and engergizing buzz, which I felt discreetly in both bodies and there was no discomfort.
It took me a minute to get the hang of moving one body vs the other (and seeing things from two discreet sides at the same time was downright unsettling!), but next I started touching things to verify that they were solid... (they were, from the vantage of each of the me's) and then when I tried to have this second body touch my "primary" body, all hell broke loose and I went into a perceptual tail spin.
When I recovered from that I was just one person again, with the sensation of the physical tingling rapidly fading and being replaced by an ache that penetrated straight to the bone and lasted for many hours.
There are a lot of similarities to what you experienced, but I can't really speak to the sadness/depression that came over you or the sensation of dark entities and bats, but I definitely had the senation that other entities were around and that I was being watched during the process but a good part of that resolved into the "second me" when the split ran it's course.
I wonder if it is possible that all the negativity could have been manufatured from your own subconscious as a way of putting the terror and panic of this extreme experience into a set of concepts that your conscious mind could deal with in the time of crisis... kind of an emergency beacon to keep you sane and get you mentally moving back in the direction that was safe.
I'm actually writing a book on extreme psychic development that details these kinds of abilities and the techniques to control them. Hopefully soon I will have enough posts so I can respond to a private message if you'd like to get in touch.
Originally posted by SeeingBlue
I can relate to how it made you feel. It's a very real, very scary experience but I believe that it all spawned from being in such an alien situation. Give yourself some time to recover mentally but don't let it stop you from trying again. You might want to try other, more controlled or stable methods, but you should be more ready the second time around as the feelings won't be so alien this time.
And it feels like death because it's some of the same processes that occur.
Originally posted by Julie Washington
I must say I don't know much about this subject, but I have a question.
The few posts I've read, people have explained scary and painful events. What is the motivation to do this?
Are there positive benefits to this?
Originally posted by kaskade
i didnt try to do this...it was very random and spontaneous, so its not really what i was "aiming for"... but the story's of the positive far out ways the bad
Originally posted by SeeingBlue
It's a very real, very scary experience but I believe that it all spawned from being in such an alien situation. Give yourself some time to recover mentally but don't let it stop you from trying again....