9/11 Pentagon plane flight data recorder proves Official Story False

Analysis of data supposedly from the flight data recorder of AA77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, shows that the cockpit door was never open for more than 4 seconds if at all during the entire flight and that the plane was never low enough in altitude to hit the Pentagon. The circumstances surrounding the finding of the FDR itself are suspicious. If the plane didn't hit the Pentagon, but instead flew over it, then one of two things happened. Either the plane landed/crashed somewhere else and the FDR was removed OR the FDR was never really recovered and the data released was sloppily faked. EITHER WAY, it contradicts the Official Story.

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The mainstream media needs to talk about this.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by Beancounter72]

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Sorry, "Beancounter"...You're late to the party, that is SO 2009!!!

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Hint: "Pilotsfor911Truth" are a laughing stock. EVERYTHING they've claimed, so far, has failed the test of veracity, especially from those of us who ACTUALLY are pilots, not that merry band of Googling wannabes...

(well, in fairness, the founder -- Rob Balsamo -- actually does have a pilot's certificate, but his incredible lack of experience shows through repeatedly. OR, he just wants to keep fostering the ignorance, over there, to keep the "donations" flowing...not sure which).


The "P4T" site is closely monitored by First Officer Balsamo, and ANY dissent is quickly dealt with. He allows NO ONE to present any counter arguments, nor information that doesn't meet with the propaganda line that he wishes to promote. It is his own little fiefdom, and it shows.....

Originally posted by Beancounter72
Analysis of data supposedly from the flight data recorder of AA77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, shows that the cockpit door was never open for more than 4 seconds if at all during the entire flight and that the plane was never low enough in altitude to hit the Pentagon. The circumstances surrounding the finding of the FDR itself are suspicious. If the plane didn't hit the Pentagon, but instead flew over it, then one of two things happened. Either the plane landed/crashed somewhere else and the FDR was removed OR the FDR was never really recovered and the data released was sloppily faked. EITHER WAY, it contradicts the Official Story.

rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com...

The mainstream media needs to talk about this.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by Beancounter72]

The MSM needs to grow a brain first.

Yeah, this came up months ago. I downloaded the spreadsheet with all the diffrent variables. It was 0 for the cockpit door. For something like 5 flights! Now how would you fly the plane if the pilots couldn't get inside? You don't. The door sensor is optional, in this case it obvioulsy did not have one or it was inop. There were other variables as well that should have had a reading, but didn't.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Beancounter72

 

Sorry, "Beancounter"...You're late to the party, that is SO 2009!!!

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Hint: "Pilotsfor911Truth" are a laughing stock. EVERYTHING they've claimed, so far, has failed the test of veracity, especially from those of us who ACTUALLY are pilots, not that merry band of Googling wannabes...

(well, in fairness, the founder -- Rob Balsamo -- actually does have a pilot's certificate, but his incredible lack of experience shows through repeatedly. OR, he just wants to keep fostering the ignorance, over there, to keep the "donations" flowing...not sure which).


The "P4T" site is closely monitored by First Officer Balsamo, and ANY dissent is quickly dealt with. He allows NO ONE to present any counter arguments, nor information that doesn't meet with the propaganda line that he wishes to promote. It is his own little fiefdom, and it shows.....

pilotsfor911truth.org...

Hi.

Take a look at the member of 911 pilots for truth. Why would these supposidly credible people associate themselves with this tale if they didn't feel there was valid evidence to back it up?

[edit on 13-1-2010 by leo123]

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the cockpit door was never open for more than 4
seconds if at all during the entire flight

Either the plane landed/crashed somewhere else and the FDR was removed
OR the FDR was never really recovered and the data released was sloppily faked.

Note that even if true that the door remained closed, there are at least two possibilitiess other than those you've listed:

* The hijackers were in the cockpit already. For example: The pilots were the hijackers.
* The plane was electronically hijacked and remotely flown.



[edit on 13-1-2010 by LordBucket]

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Take a look at the member of 911 pilots for truth.

Oh, rest assured I have looked at the P4T "roster". I find them less than admirable, IF they truly believe any of the crapolla put out by the head honcho on that site. I very, very much doubt that any of them are actively involved with posting over there, and if they've had any second thoughts about associating with Balsamo and his merry cult of "believers" I expect there is little recourse available to them to have their names removed, short of a lawsuit.

Remember, early on some of those "core" members (who are undoubtedly airline pilots, THAT is not in question) nevertheless claimed that they could NOT line up a jet, a jet mind you that they were familiar with, in order to hit the WTC buildings. The Towers in NYC were how wide again??? Well over 200 feet wide, yet at most airports the runways are only 150 feet wide. (Some are 175, some 200).

So, I ask you: How to these experienced airline pilots, in normal routine activities where they work, manage to takeoff and land their jets on such a "narrow" piece of pavement??? How can they, with a straight face, make such outlandish claims, without appearing foolish?

How can it be that relatively inexperienced teenagers are seen easily flying a full-motion simulator into the Pentagon? (Lost the YT link, but just search for it. Was done in the Netherlands).

AND, we have are own (former "Conspiracy Master" at ATS), Capt. John Lear, you constantly and stridently asserted that the two jets in NYC were NOT real, that they were holograms, and that the destruction of the Towers was caused by top-secret energy weapon beams from orbiting space stations....(I am not making this up --- this is what he stated, repeatedly).

Capt. Lear is ALSO on that P4T "core member" list......
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Would like to add, a suggestion that has come up, regarding those who regularly post on that P4T site. No way to prove it, but given his history of coming back again and again here on ATS under a multitude of various "sock" screen names, First Officer Balsamo could very easily be inflating his "roster" in a similar way, and patting himself on the back over and over again, using aliases...just a thought.....




[edit on 13 January 2010 by weedwhacker]

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* The hijackers were in the cockpit already. For example: The pilots were the hijackers.

NO. But, really? Did you write that tongue in cheek, or do you actually consider that as a plausible scenario?!?

Because, if the former, it is not funny; if the latter, I say again....really?!?

* The plane was electronically hijacked and remotely flown.

I don't know which suggestion is more outlandish, this one or the other one.

Anyone with ANY experience in aviation can see why, immediately. Even the clowns at P4T haven't tried that one --- yet.