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Video: Native American Rights Under Assault

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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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The video :Who Turned Off The Rights For The Residents Of Crow Creek? "

yet another blow the residents of Crow Creek. The same people whom, “The Internal Revenue Service auctioned off a large swath of land owned by an impoverished Indian tribe to help pay off more than $3 million in back taxes, penalties and interest - a sale the tribe says is illegal under federal laws protecting Indian land. The 7,100 acres, or 11 square miles, are back in the news again...

Most Americans enjoy protection from having their home electricity turned off during the coldest parts of the year, a protection ensured by law... Only those laws don't apply to Native Americans living on Reservations


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The crisis occurs against a background of economic devastation created by the building of a series of giant dams along the Missouri River in the mid-20th century. The dams flooded valuable riverside agricultural areas on Sioux reservations throughout the Dakotas. Starvation ensued in many areas. In return for giving up the richly diverse bottomland, Crow Creek was promised free electrical power, which it never received. It did get $27.5 million that has been put into trust. However, the tribe can only touch the interest, not the principal

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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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The pains have never ceased.... and in the end we are always going to be screwed by this government...

perhaps when the last red man ( a real human being) is gone they (white man) will be happy...

and they will not rest till they have taken everything and destroyed all they can.

maybe it is time



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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Fulfilling a campaign pledge, President Obama welcomed nearly 400 tribal leaders to his White House Tribal Nations Conference on and assured them that his support of Native issues is genuine and his historic summit is no mere "lip service" to Indian Country.

Well it looked to me like that little crying toddler in the vid is still waiting to see something other than more "Lip Service"!

Now is the time to put up or shut up Obama... The World is watching what you'll do next...



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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A good way for native Americans to get some revenge would be to use the lawlessness they have been delt against the rest of the country. Make more gambling casinos, grow illegal crops like pot, make illegal substances like moonshine, have brothels and other profitable businesses like that. If the federal goverment wishes to break every treaty, then break all their laws to make money.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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Sadly we NA's are not as Sovran as you would think...
we still are (Laughingly) American citizens therefore subject to the laws of the land... in other words commit a federal crime...i.e. growing pot, brewing moonshine or opening brothels and the FBI will come onto Indian land and haul you off... Of course those rules only extend to punishment, not protection...



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:27 PM
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What's saddest bout all this is that:

1. They are losing their traditions, their culture, their language.
2. We are losing the great teachings of how we are to treat Mother Earth so that we can survive without hurting her.
3. They live in the richest country of the world, yet live in 3rd world conditions

The aboriginal people in Canada are not in the same situation, but have similar problems regarding land claims and such. How fast we forget that without Natives, the Europeans would have died of starvation, cold, scurvy, and from many other health problems. The Europeans had no idea how to live in the boreal forest when they first got there and the different groups and tribes helped them survive only to be introduced to alcohol, lies, and later attempted genocide...

BTW I know because i live with and work for these people...



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by lilwolf
The pains have never ceased.... and in the end we are always going to be screwed by this government...

perhaps when the last red man ( a real human being) is gone they (white man) will be happy..


I agree with your first part and thats not just for natives but everyone.We ALL are getting screwed in most areas of the planet.
Definately not trying to downplay this tho.

The second part irks me a little.I have enough native blood in me that I was offered the card and refused simply from a racial standpoint.
I figured if I got one I would be expected to start despising white people for taking the land which I already do but why organize all the hate and dwell on it.
I can enjoy all the races without all the politics.
I think its ok to keep culture but the race talk proves why I think I am right in not wanting to be a part of a tribe.

I also didn't want the card because I have been on and seen reservations and there is no way I would want to sign up for that.
I hope this doesn't offend anyone as it is definately not my intention.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:43 PM
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No offence taken… but I think you misunderstand what the "Card" is...
Really all is does is make you eligible for tribal membership... No one is going to force you to live out on the Rez if you become a member....

Look at me... I'm a full "Card carrying member of the Jicarilla Apache Nation... But I don’t live out on the Rez... in fact the wife and I own (Free and clear) a very nice town house (In a gated community) in what most would call the upper scale part of Albuquerque...

You are right in that it's not a race issue... it is about equality for those least able to protect themselves from a clearly evil profits driven corporation



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum007


The aboriginal people in Canada are not in the same situation, but have similar problems regarding land claims and such. How fast we forget that without Natives, the Europeans would have died of starvation, cold, scurvy, and from many other health problems. The Europeans had no idea how to live in the boreal forest when they first got there and the different groups and tribes helped them survive only to be introduced to alcohol, lies, and later attempted genocide...

BTW I know because i live with and work for these people...


Canadian aboriginals get so much funding for the government it boggles my mind. School is free, rent is free, books, exempt from many tax laws...Yet native students still do not perform compared to others.
All I'm saying is that throwing money at it will not solve the problem.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by earthdude
 


Sadly we NA's are not as Sovran as you would think...
we still are (Laughingly) American citizens therefore subject to the laws of the land... in other words commit a federal crime...i.e. growing pot, brewing moonshine or opening brothels and the FBI will come onto Indian land and haul you off... Of course those rules only extend to punishment, not protection...

Sad but true. One would hate to bring things back to 1862-the Dakota Wars. As our nation struggles for state rights, maybe some reservation rights need to be aquired.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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Why dont they just leave them alone? Hand over a section of the country, a real section not just some barren desert, and leave them alone.

It makes no sense to me that the fed has to tax even these people.

You know the Amish are taxed too? High fallutin' Amish with their splendor of buggies and baskets.

It like some big cash hungry monster that wont let you go. It just keeps biting and chewing until you give up or die. God forbid you even attempt to resist it. They come through with their storm troopers and helicopters and kill all your children.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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So true, leave them alone for gods sake, I am by no means a fan of most cultures we would define as "3rd world" or have considered less than us, but we screwed up in not absorbing more and being more aligned with the Natives of North America, Great people, Amazing culture, so much lost...

Mistakes get made, repeating them... that there is NO EXCUSE FOR



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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Ah but this time its not about taxes or free government hand out's
it is about Humans who are having their power turned off (Against state law) in below zero temps...

Does make me wonder... if one of them freezes to death because of having their power turned off... will the person who did it face murder charges??? or is that just a case of business is business??



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 02:59 PM
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Well here the card exempts you from certain taxes and from what I have been told but I never checked so I could be wrong,is that you get deals on land on a reservation.Educational discounts also from what I have heard.

I basically saw it as yes I get a deal on land and maybe a house but would be stuck on a reservation and saw it as a trap.
I am Canadian and the card I was offered was The North American Indian card.I was also told that some places will keep your card and make you go get a dumbed down version with less rights to it.
On the back of it,it says you are even allowed to cross to the US without them harrassing you.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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I wish I would have read your post before I replied to the OP.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:02 PM
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This is going to sound amazingly harsh because, well, it is but yeah. You entered into a contract with the company and you're failing to fulfill your end of the contract.

I think it's bogus that this doesnt apply to everyone.

Stack some stones and burn anything you can. Cover yourself in layers and layers and blankets. We made it thousands of years without electricity and we dont need it now.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by heyo

Canadian aboriginals get so much funding for the government it boggles my mind. School is free, rent is free, books, exempt from many tax laws...Yet native students still do not perform compared to others.
All I'm saying is that throwing money at it will not solve the problem.


I couldn't agree more! It's true that there is a lot of money given, things are free, tax exemptions, etc... The problem is exactly what you said : throwing money at the problem without proper guidance and follow through.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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What can I say?

The Americans won't be happy until the genocide is complete.

There comes a time when you look at the past behavior of the people you are dealing with, their current behavior, and compare their deeds with their words. Petitions are useless diversionary tactics offered by deadly enemies to delay redress until none are left to complain. I know of no petition I've ever signed on behalf of Native American rights that made one bit of difference in the problems. When it comes to Native American rights, Americans can be trusted only to lie, to take what isn't theirs, and to make promises they never intend to keep.

Americans steal our land, our lives, and our futures. The worst part is that they steal and then rather than make anything of the theft, merely despoil what they've taken, leaving little good in their wake.

I've neither the faith nor the time left to wait for them to make amends voluntarily.

In my opinion, it is very nearly time to go to war to preserve what little is left, since to accept any American promise for redress is to betray our own people and condemn the little ones and elders to slow death. Better to fight and die with honor in defense of your own than allow genocidal liars free reign to kill slowly.

The tribes could fight and win against the Americans if they thought about it for a bit. The US is a rotten house: a few small pushes in the right places in the right way would topple it within a month. I don't know that things would get better then, but at least there'd be room for genuine change.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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No the state they live in has a law preventing power from being turned off during the winter months Nov through March... but that only applies if you don’t live on the Rez...

they dont turn the power off to those good god fearing white folks who live in the nearby towns... why did they single out the Lakota????


As for contracts the Lakota people were promised free power for allowing those dams to be built on tribal lands... Maybe harsh should be the Lakota people demand those dams be shut down right now and removed … see how the eastern sea board likes losing their power over the winter???



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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I'd support them going a. and destroying the dams for the EC's breach of contract. But I'm sure that would have men with guns coming down on them in no time.

I apologize if it seems like I'm not getting the whole picture. I cant sit and watch the video at work.




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