If slavery was legalized [again], would you buy a slave?, page 1


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reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 10:47 AM by endisnighe
Well yes, I would buy maybe 320 million slaves.

Of course than I would be the US Federal government.

Involuntary Servitude

Legal Definition from here-
The 'Lectric Law Library's Lexicon On
* Involuntary Servitude & Peonage *




INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE & PEONAGE - a condition of compulsory service or labor performed by one person, against his will, for the benefit of another person due to force, threats, intimidation or other similar means of coercion and compulsion directed against him.

In considering whether service or labor was performed by someone against his will or involuntarily, it makes no difference that the person may have initially agreed, voluntarily, to render the service or perform the work. If a person willingly begins work but later desires to withdraw and is then forced to remain and perform work against his will, his service becomes involuntary. Also, whether a person is paid a salary or a wage is not determinative of the question as to whether that person has been held in involuntary servitude. In other words, if a person is forced to labor against his will, his service is involuntary even though he is paid for his work.

However, it is necessary to prove that the person knowingly and willfully took action, by way of force, threats, intimidation or other form of coercion, causing the victim to reasonably believe that he had no way to avoid continued service, that he was confronted by the existence of a superior and overpowering authority, constantly threatening to the extent that his will was completely subjugated.

Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 1584, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully hold another person in involuntary servitude.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

First: That the person held the victim in a condition of 'involuntary servitude';

Second: That such holding was for a 'term,'; and

Third: That the person acted knowingly and willfully.

It must be shown that a person held to involuntary servitude was so held for a 'term.' It is not necessary, however, that any specific period of time be proved so long as the 'term' of the involuntary service was not wholly insubstantial or insignificant.

Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 1581(a) is the peonage law cited in the indictment.

The specific facts which must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in order to establish the offense of peonage include each and all of the three specific factual elements constituting involuntary servitude as previously stated and explained in these instructions, plus a fourth specific fact; namely, that the involuntary servitude was compelled by the person in order to satisfy a real or imagined debt regardless of amount.

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13th Amendment

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

I guess everyone in the US must have been convicted of a crime of being born here!

I believe anyone born into any country that has a deficit would fit the meaning of being a slave.

My share of the US debt is $333,000 dollars at the moment. Would anyone like to take my share? I am full up on the moment just trying to survive!


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 10:47 AM by itsawild1
reply to post by Nate8727



i second that---there are other things to post about -lots more important--however since you asked--yes--but only if it was you--but you are some kind of work, so you would have to pay me to be my slave --right answer???


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 10:49 AM by FritosBBQTwist
reply to post by OmegaLogos



Only if I would be able to buy you.

Then again, by looking at this thread you would probably be pretty useless.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 11:09 AM by OmegaLogos
reply to post by FritosBBQTwist

Explanation: Coolio So you'd buy me as a slave! That answers the "would you buy a slave?" bit! Care to offer a price you'd be willing to pay for me?

Personal Disclosure: Flattering me [RE:"pretty"] on ATS IMO does nothing for your own reputation! Who here is really being "useless"?!


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 11:51 AM by Incendia vox
I'm sorry but when i saw this I immediately thought of this:


I wouldn't buy a slave though, not because someone would have their life ruined but because it is epitomy of laziness, oh and because I wouldn't be able to afford one.
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