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The Bible, the revealed written Word of God teaches that life is only possible through a process of creation. Even if there were other galaxies with planets very similar to earth, life could only be there if the Creator had fashioned it. If God had done that, and if these beings were going to visit us one day, then He would surely not have left us unenlightened about this.
God has given us rather specific details of the future—for example, the return of Jesus, and some details about the end of the world. The universe will, at some future point, be rolled up like a scroll (Isaiah 34:4, Revelation 6:14). If God had created living beings elsewhere, this would automatically destroy their dwelling place as well. Adam's sin caused all of creation to be affected by the Curse, so why would a race of beings, not of Adam's (sinful) seed, have their part of creation affected by the Curse, and then be part of the restoration brought about by Christ, the last Adam? All of this would seem exceedingly strange.
Some have claimed that the nephilim, or the “sons of God,” both mentioned in Genesis 6:2-4, were aliens. This is a wild extension of a common view that the “sons of God” who married the “daughters of men” were fallen angels, and that the nephilim were products of those “marriages.”
“Sons of God” is clearly used of angels in Job 38:7. The Septuagint (LXX) here translates “sons of God” as “angels of God.” This need not mean that evil angels, or demons, actually cohabited with women—Jesus made it clear that angels do not engage in sexual activities, at least not angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30). Nevertheless, evil angels on earth could have used the bodies of ungodly men, by demonic possession, to achieve their evil purpose of producing an evil generation of people (Genesis 6:12).
Bible scholars such as H.C. Leupold believe that the “sons of God” were descendants of Seth, the godly line who are detailed in the preceding chapter (Genesis 4:25-5:32). Leupold wrote, “But who were these ‘sons of God’? Without a shadow of a doubt, the Sethites.”[3] In this view, the descendants of Seth became wayward and married the “daughters of men” indiscriminately, basing their choice only on appearance, without concern for godliness, and the nephilim were their offspring.
The reason stars were made are given to us in several places in the Bible, not only in the well-known Psalm 19 but especially in the creation account. In Genesis 1:14 we read: “And God said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to divide between the day and the night. And let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years.”
Thus, God made the stars for mankind on earth, not for another alien race “out there.” Add to this the sequence of creation (on the first day the earth, and only on the fourth day the stars), and it is easy to see the thrust of the biblical testimony, that the purpose of creation is uniquely centered on this earth.
On August 7th, 1996, NASA (America's National Space and Aeronautics Administration) made a surprise announcement that was quickly reported throughout the world. Almost every news service, national and local news program, newspaper, and talk show soon discussed this "discovery of the century." Scientists throughout the world have been accepting hasty media interviews on the subject and excitedly saying some very foolish things—without actually having read the research papers. Some would have us believe that man evolved from these “seeds” blown from a distant planet. Others boldly say we now know that the whole universe is populated with living creatures of every description.
Has the existence of extraterrestrial life finally been proven?
Certainly not, here are the facts.
Discovering life on another planet is the “Holy Grail” of many modern scientists. Annually, millions of dollars are spent on the search. Year after year, absolutely no evidence has been found. Now that this unusual meteorite has been examined, these scientists have a tiny shred of evidence of a tiny bacteria—but the slimmest, weakest, most insubstantial of evidences. One wonders if the purpose of this announcement was more than anything else, another attempt by NASA to reap more taxpayer money. NASA has been doing a lot of public relations publicity recently—on the airwaves, the Internet, and in Congress—trying to justify their huge budget for extraterrestrial exploration and ignite the public's imagination and support.
Furthermore, Jesus dying for alien beings makes no sense, since Jesus took on human nature, and remains the God-man forever as our Savior. If He were to atone for Vulcans, say, he would need to become a Vulcan. The whole purpose of creation is focused on the race on earth, of which some will be Christ's “bride” throughout eternity. Christ will not have multiple “brides.”
For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?
The word which is translated, "giants", in the King James version of the Bible is, in Hebrew, "Nephilim", which means, "Those who fell, or ... the fallen ones". Jude, the brother of Jesus describes them as "angels, having left their first estate in heaven". These fallen angels came to earth for a serious purpose.
Originally posted by timewalker
I could never get past this passage
Genesis 1:26 - “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness."
Who is US and OUR????????? And the whole rib, bioengineering thing????
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
The entire Bible is about aliens interacting with mankind!!!!
And I Enoch was blessing the Lord of majesty and the King of the ages, and lo! the Watchers called me—Enoch the scribe—and said to me: ‘Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness, go, declare to the Watchers of the heaven who have left the high heaven
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
The entire Bible is about aliens interacting with mankind!!!!
Well that's a stretch...
I would agree that some text is pretty far out there but the entire bible? Nah.
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
The entire Bible is about aliens interacting with mankind!!!!
It was these fallen ones that chose to come down to Earth and do this.
Their children were the Nephilim.
Just to note, alien is anything that is not of this Earth. That which comes down to Earth from somewhere else is alien by default, so being an alien doesn't mean you have to be a gray, although I believe the grays are modern day Nephilim. It just means not of the Earth. Angels are from the heavens, and in Heaven. The book of Jude says that they chose to leave their first estate and take on the appearance of man.
So in the end, the Nephilim are not aliens, they are a hybrid. The fallen ones, that is, the fallen angels are aliens in the sense that their place is not the Earth but the heavens and Heaven.
Originally posted by timewalker
I could never get past this passage
Genesis 1:26 - “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness."
Who is US and OUR????????? And the whole rib, bioengineering thing????
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
reply to post by Fromabove
It was these fallen ones that chose to come down to Earth and do this.
Fell down from where?
Their children were the Nephilim.
That implies that the "fallen angels" were physical and was able to have sexual interactions with human women.
Just to note, alien is anything that is not of this Earth. That which comes down to Earth from somewhere else is alien by default, so being an alien doesn't mean you have to be a gray, although I believe the grays are modern day Nephilim. It just means not of the Earth. Angels are from the heavens, and in Heaven. The book of Jude says that they chose to leave their first estate and take on the appearance of man.
That's a start at least.
Why call them sons of gods (elohim)? The same Hebrew term is used in Genesis 1.
So in the end, the Nephilim are not aliens, they are a hybrid. The fallen ones, that is, the fallen angels are aliens in the sense that their place is not the Earth but the heavens and Heaven.
Like I said, that's a start.
The "sons of God" (fallen angels) could take on human form and did. And yes, they could breed.
“Sons of God” is clearly used of angels in Job 38:7. The Septuagint (LXX) here translates “sons of God” as “angels of God.” This need not mean that evil angels, or demons, actually cohabited with women—Jesus made it clear that angels do not engage in sexual activities, at least not angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30). Nevertheless, evil angels on earth could have used the bodies of ungodly men, by demonic possession, to achieve their evil purpose of producing an evil generation of people (Genesis 6:12).
The traditional Jewish view, deriving from the Book of Enoch, is that the fathers of the nephilim, the "sons of God", were the Grigori (a class of fallen angels also called the Watchers); however, there is some controversy on this point (Targum Jonathan) [1]. Some commentators suggest the nephilim were believed to have been fathered by members of a proto-Hebrew pantheon, and are a brief glimpse of early Hebrew religion, most of the details of which was later edited out from the Torah. Others, especially some Christians, suggest the "sons of God" were fully human. It is sometimes suggested that ridding the Earth of these nephilim was one of God's purposes for flooding the Earth in Noah's time.